Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 17:52:11 +0200
Subject: Re: Rhetoric



Contrary to the traditional orientation, according to which rhetoric is
conceived 
as the kind of thing we learn in school, this work of Aristotle must be
taken as the 
first systematic hermeneutic of everydayness of being with one another. . . 
What has[also] escaped notice is that the basic ontological Interpretation
of the 
affective life in general [contained mainly in the discussion of the
emotions in Book II] 
has been able to scarcely make one forward step worthy of mention since
Aristotle(BT 178). 

Allen,

This reminds me of Kant, speaking in literally the same words, of
Aristotelian logic in the 
Qritique of pure reason. This is not the only time in BT, that he speaks
like a new-born Kant.
Your 'one and only' Aristoteles was to be substituted ruthlessly in the
next series of colleges.

It is of course a new way of thinking,  - a revolution in the Denkungsart - 
that searches back into everyday-mood, because this has always been the first 
to be overjumped. In the times, that philosophy became
part of academic life, it began to occupy an everyday-mood of its own. To
Socrates ,
the dichotomy eigentlich/uneigentlich doesn't seem to apply. Probably the
fact that
he didn't write, has to do with this.

In the later commentaries of Heidegger to Aristoteles' Physics and
Metaphysics, I don't
see this thread continued. (Later, the metaphysical home position of a
thinker is
not related back to everydayness) Also, the Rhetoric must have some place
in the whole of
Aristoteles' works, although it is not a system. What the orator has to
say, are logoi, 
what  he speaks about, are hypokeimena or ousiai.
Undoubtedly, Aristoteles has taken into view the situation as a phenomenon
by itself.  
But is the Rhetorics not merely supplemental? And so on a level, comparable
to f.i.
American pragmatism, which he got to know through Emil Lask?

I think it was Georgiades too, who said, that the real loss, the Greeks
suffered, was that of
the mousike, around the year 425. Suddenly declamators realized, THEY were
the ones,
that were speaking and singing. The sense of resignation seems to have been
even far greater 
than in the nihilistic Europe of the late 19th century. 


regards,

rene








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drs. René de Bakker
Universiteitsbibliotheek Amsterdam
Afdeling Catalogisering 
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