From: "Blank" <gulio-AT-sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Dasein for whom?
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:50:39 -0400


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Re: Dasein for whom?
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: allen scult
  To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
  Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Dasein for whom?


     John Cage does seem to bring
    us closer to the phenomena as such, the "that it is" of Dasein. Lately
    bringing me closer has been Stan Getz's tenor sax in "body and soul" for
    instance. The music makes me think of nothing...


  Gulio :


  In addition to  moving me to return to Stan Getz and buy the album, your  very last sentence led me to think about how to describe the experience of music which 'brings us closer to the phenomena as such, the 'that it is of Dasein." But I wonder if it "makes me think of nothing," or if it makes me think of nothing, but the very music itself, the musicality of the music.  Perhaps I'm just ,mincing words ( which is my wont),and this is what you meant. But I will assume not, so I can go on to say what I came to say.


  I listen to it with the body, who could explain it... the sound of his sax just relaxes you and you gotta love the latin flavor in say "ebony samba". It's probably just as easy for you to buy the stuff, I'm using audiogalaxy(audiogalaxy.com). Works great... i have downloaded 100 plus songs overnight on the thing on high speed. Most of them come through complete too. It does work better and is more of a pleasure to use than napster. All the jazz classics and everything popular is there. The only problem lately is massive number of new users coming from napster. The servers are having a hard time dealing with the traffic but when it works it really works. Mostly i have world music. Try searching for and listening to "Ketama, Toumani Diabate, Jose Soto" , "Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn", "Orchestra Baobab" ... this a changing group of african jazz musicians, from them try "utru horas" or "mouhamadou bamba", "Ebenezer Obey". Also if you search for "Desert Blues" that will get you stuff from a very good 2cd set called desert blues: ambiance du sahara. There is so much good music, Ali Akbar Kahn, Susanna Baca, Anouar Brahem Trio, all from the new world poaching economy LOL.

  Anyway, good to chat again,
  Gulio Blank




  Just a bit ago, I was listening to Bach's B Minor Mass, and at about cut #9 on the first CD ( Shows you how much music I know!), I hear a direct "repetition" of one of my favorite themes from one of the Brandenburgs.  There it was !  The 'that it is' of musical  Dasein! How did Bach know that it was "right". . . again?  And how was he able to make it right for me. . . again?  Does it have to do with thinking?  Not thinking of nothing, but thinking of the very thing music is!  What an extraordinary bit of "collaboration"between Bach and yours truly. Reminds me of the magic of  "ontological rhetoric"  Henry spoke of. Also gives me an idea for a  radio show: " Being-with Bach." Bach plays the music. I think the music as he plays it.  It should all sound together like Baroque harmony.


  If you're "still looking for a name," I wonder how you'll know when you've found it.  You could always be Clint Eastwood in " The Good the Bad and the Ugly," and just announce your coming with an appropriate musical phrase.  I think I hear it now. . .


  Allen





  Professor Allen Scult                                   Dept. of Philosophy
  HOMEPAGE: " Heidegger on Rhetoric and Hermeneutics":         Drake University
  http://www.multimedia2.drake.edu/s/scult/scult.html             Des Moines, Iowa 50311
  PHONE: 515 271 2869
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----- Original Message -----

From: allen scult

To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu

Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:48 PM

Subject: Re: Dasein for whom?

 John Cage does seem to bring

us closer to the phenomena as such, the "that it is" of Dasein. Lately
bringing me closer has been Stan Getz's tenor sax in "body and soul" for

instance. The music makes me think of nothing...

Gulio :

In addition to  moving me to return to Stan Getz and buy the album, your  very last sentence led me to think about how to describe the experience of music which 'brings us closer to the phenomena as such, the 'that it is of Dasein." But I wonder if it "makes me think of nothing," or if it makes me think of nothing, but the very music itself, the musicality of the music.  Perhaps I'm just ,mincing words ( which is my wont),and this is what you meant. But I will assume not, so I can go on to say what I came to say.

 

 

I listen to it with the body, who could explain it... the sound of his sax just relaxes you and you gotta love the latin flavor in say "ebony samba". It's probably just as easy for you to buy the stuff, I'm using audiogalaxy(audiogalaxy.com). Works great... i have downloaded 100 plus songs overnight on the thing on high speed. Most of them come through complete too. It does work better and is more of a pleasure to use than napster. All the jazz classics and everything popular is there. The only problem lately is massive number of new users coming from napster. The servers are having a hard time dealing with the traffic but when it works it really works. Mostly i have world music. Try searching for and listening to "Ketama, Toumani Diabate, Jose Soto" , "Nusrat Fateh Ali Kahn", "Orchestra Baobab" ... this a changing group of african jazz musicians, from them try "utru horas" or "mouhamadou bamba", "Ebenezer Obey". Also if you search for "Desert Blues" that will get you stuff from a very good 2cd set called desert blues: ambiance du sahara. There is so much good music, Ali Akbar Kahn, Susanna Baca, Anouar Brahem Trio, all from the new world poaching economy LOL.

 

Anyway, good to chat again,

Gulio Blank

 

 

 

Just a bit ago, I was listening to Bach's B Minor Mass, and at about cut #9 on the first CD ( Shows you how much music I know!), I hear a direct "repetition" of one of my favorite themes from one of the Brandenburgs.  There it was !  The 'that it is' of musical  Dasein! How did Bach know that it was "right". . . again?  And how was he able to make it right for me. . . again?  Does it have to do with thinking?  Not thinking of nothing, but thinking of the very thing music is!  What an extraordinary bit of "collaboration"between Bach and yours truly. Reminds me of the magic of  "ontological rhetoric"  Henry spoke of. Also gives me an idea for a  radio show: " Being-with Bach." Bach plays the music. I think the music as he plays it.  It should all sound together like Baroque harmony.

If you're "still looking for a name," I wonder how you'll know when you've found it.  You could always be Clint Eastwood in " The Good the Bad and the Ugly," and just announce your coming with an appropriate musical phrase.  I think I hear it now. . .

Allen

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Professor Allen Scult                                   Dept. of Philosophy
HOMEPAGE: " Heidegger on Rhetoric and Hermeneutics":         Drake University
http://www.multimedia2.drake.edu/s/scult/scult.html             Des Moines, Iowa 50311
PHONE: 515 271 2869
FAX: 515 271 3826