From: "Henk van Tuijl" <h.vantuijl-AT-home.nl>
Subject: Re: The misunderstanding statement 2
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:19:32 +0200


From: "Michael Eldred" <artefact-AT-t-online.de>
To: <heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: The misunderstanding statement 2


> Cologne 23-Jun-2001
>
> Henk van Tuijl schrieb Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:06:02 +0200:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "allen scult" <allen.scult-AT-drake.edu>
> > To: <heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: The misunderstanding statement 2
> >
> > > In my perhaps  too careful, admittedly  self serving reading  of the
> > > Rhetoric, the  "how" in  question is, for the most part,  "legetai,"
> > > in the sense of how things are put into words.  The mechanics of
> > > delivery take up only very small parts of Books I and II. The most
> > > interesting passages in the Rhetoric are precisely about the
> > > world-as-it-is-shared ( amenable to being shared) in the discourses
> > > of average intelligibility.
> >
> > Following Heidegger the Greek believe that the rhetorical is the logical
in
> > the truest sense of the word: man is _zooion logon echon_, i.e. an
animal
> > with _Rede_.
> >
> > _Logos_ can become _legomenon_. In that case it can have a specific
function
> > in the world as it is shared - as the possibility of:
> >
> > 1) speaking things through
> > 2) theoretical dispute, discussion or persuasion (German _bereden_ means
> > also: persuade - although this connotation is probably not what
Heidegger
> > had in mind)
> > 3) exhibition or pointing out of being.
> >
> > It seems that _legetai_ and _dialegesthai_ are firmly rooted in the
> > rhetorical, if my interpretation of Heidegger GA20:364-365 is correct.
> >
> > Henk
> >
>
> Henk,
> an addendum:
> In his "Letter from America" this week on BBC radio, Alistair Cook talks
about
> an ancient Congressman from Texas whose ideas about doing politics
(_phronesis_)
> were summed up in the maxim: "A shot of Bourbon is a better persuader than
the
> twelve Apostles."
>
> Michael

:) Henk



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