File spoon-archives/heidegger.archive/heidegger_2001/heidegger.0109, message 19


Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 21:48:11 +0100
From: Jan Straathof <janstr-AT-chan.nl>
Subject: RE: Heidegger's Philosophy of Time


dear Tudor Georgescu,

on Sun, 2 Sep 2001 10:12:51 you wrote:

>Anyone easily notices that we travel a circle. Common understanding
>pretends that this circle be avoided. - Origin of the work of art

hmm, in my (dutch) copy this sentence read as:
"Common understanding demands that this circle, as a violation
of logic, be avoided."

[besides H. starts his essay from within the circle (of work &
art), but at the end he imho breaks out - Art is the shock of truth
(aletheia, Lichtung) that, by founding/opening a new beginning,
happens in the work; and Lichtung cannot be properly thought
and understood if it is placed in a closed circle - Lichtung shatters
the circle !]

>The "circle" characteristic to understanding belongs to structure of
>meaning. - Being and Time, parapgraph 32
>
>This is the "hermeneutical circle". Some formalized it as the paradox of
>induction, anyway, please notice me if anyone gets out of it!

i don't question the merits of the "hermeneutical circle" in the
fields of the human sciences (Gadamer c.s.), be we are talking
physics here (viz. time and space) and i was only questioning the
usefulness of Iordanescu's circular definitions in this field of the
natural sciences

on Mon, 3 Sep 2001 10:48:35 you wrote:

>Yes, they make sense:
>				s=D(P(s))=s
>				t=P(D(t))=t
>
>The propositions are, as "God exists", mere tautologies.

oh yes, tautologies make sense, but only as tautologies, and that's all -
again, they lead us not any further

>God is both potential and dynamics. God is both the potential and the
>dynamics.

well, that was my point in the first place; you are reducing physics
to theology, you reduce space and time to God (i.e. a common trap
in metaphysical idealism); but ok that's fine with me as long as you
don't call it physics (or philosophy)

>The potential we call Father, dynamics Son and becoming Holy Spirit.

now you really begin to sound like a priest,
but what kind of priest are you anyway, a self-proclaimed one ?

yours,
jan




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