Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 13:32:39 +0200 From: Rene de Bakker <rbakker-AT-bs18.bs.uva.nl> Subject: RE: anybody and philosophy At 12:17 5-9-01 +0200, you wrote: >> >Plato spoke about ideas as they were things for he missed an adequate >> >expression for his ideas. >> >> Mr. priest, >> Without Plato, you couldn't have said this. > >What I mean is that the metaphysical approach of Plato and Heraclitus >proves for our age to be more fruitful than the gods-like approach of >Homer and Hesiod. All of them speak in metaphors and should not be taken >literally (if gods inhabit Mount Olympus, where is transcendence?). In a >more spiritual age we would say that Theogony is the basis of all >thinking, but, as men decayed since then, we had to turn to what is at >hand, to what we now know and understand: things. And I mean, that in talking the way you do you remain inevitable the victim of Plato. When metaphysics is what Heidegger says it is, nl. nihilism - I pause here for the 10 years that are needed to understand something of this - then Plato is the beginning of the end of god. And you behave like the grandson of the old man in the woods, of whom Zarathustra says: can you believe it, there's someone who still has not heard that god is dead. If you would really be serious with your god, you wouldn't insult him with this priestship. R. ----------------------------------- drs. René de Bakker Universiteitsbibliotheek Amsterdam Afdeling Catalogisering tel. 020-5252368 --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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