From: "Jud Evans" <Jud-AT-sunrise74.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ESSE Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:15:16 +0100 Jud wrote recently: This will save a lot of time if you have the time and sufficient interest to read it. Like most of my catawauling its main purpose is to undermine the basic false Grundbegriffe of Heideggerianism - that of the concept of BEING Michael: Just one minor interruption: neither being nor "being" is a concept (as Heidegger means it) one cannot grasp or 'have' it in the hand (mind) like a thing or the image of a thing: "it" is not the name of any thing, does not re-present any thing... you've continually put your [non] potatoes in the wrong bag :-) Jud: I do not consider your remarks to be an interruption, [you may be surprised to hear] nor do I disparage your comments as being of a minor nature. Your writing is always a joy to read, [apart from its irritating hyphenation] being so poetic and creative, and the fact that it doesn't actually say much that adds to an understanding of Heidegger or what Heidegger was struggling to say does not retract from my enjoyment. The poetic and creative aspect of your writing [and of others on this list] is perhaps the key to an understanding of why the transcendentalist nature of Heideggerianism is so attractive to those of a creative spirit, for what could be more natural for a poet or a composer of music such as you, than to extend your creative impulses into the world of transcendentalist philosophy, and be drawn to a way of looking at the world where human feelings and somatatesthesises help descry its mystery rather than the more logical or 'scientific' explanations offered by the more analytically orientated philosophies. I would argue of course that it is possible to be BOTH originitive and imaginative and [for want of a better word] 'spiritual' and sensible of the true mechanisms of the language we use to communicate the products of our 'unworldly' creativity - a language which influences our oeuvre sometimes consciously but more often unconsciously which is the case with the processant in the way it influences our perception of existence and the modalities of our presence, and [because of its misunderstood nature] confuses the fact that things are things, with the WAY that things are things. Michael: Thanks for an interesting linguistic chronology concerning your most fearful word, "be[ing]": Jud: I don't believe that the word is fearful, for an understanding of its nature dispels fear. It wasn't poor little BEs fault that its imbroglioic misconstrual has wreaked so much damage upon Western philosophy. Michael: the sad fact is that Heidegger's (and Heideggerian) thinking concerns (and only concerns) being and not the linguistic entity that impossibly re-presents "it" Jud: The last apology or fall-back position in debate is to claim that human language is incapable of delineating an idea, and then to proceed to employ that very language to defend the idea. The word 'being' simply and uncomplicatedly addresses the ongoing or continuous state of the subject with which it is associated, as expressed in the words that usually [in English] follow it as in: "Herr Heidegger, you are being very difficult this morning." If you wished to attempt to describe Herr Heidegger's 'serial' being [i.e. his life] you would have to sit at a type-writer from here to eternity constructing a assemblage of sentences so complex and multitudinous that the task would be impossible however long you sat through the dark velvet night of time clicking away, for his contemporaneous existential modalities would be in constant change - even to describe the trillion modalities of a single eye-lash would be beyond the bounds of existential modalic description and your typewriter would decompose beneath your fingers long before the seething modalic chaos of bacteriological and molecular activity of its keratinised surface was even betokened. Michael: (such an impossibility revolves around the twin poles of [1] being not [being] a representable thing, and, [2] being [being] the possibility of (re-) presentability in the first place): this is the (extremely difficult and challenging) 'thing' to think and not the linguistic nomenclature and other sundry claptrap concerning the copula and its allies. Jud: As regards (1) Being is not a representable thing simply because it represents nothing in itself, but is engaged in the representation of other things - namely the existential modality of the object [real or reificational] with which it is associated. In the case of: "One of Herr Heidegger's eyelashes is being preserved between the pages of a signed copy of B&T." the being word exhibits the [continuous] existential modality of one of Herr Heidegger's eyelashes, which is is that of being preserved between the pages of a signed copy of B&T." In other words the task of 'being' is not to be represented - but to represent or exhibit the state of the entity [Heidegger's eyelash] with which it is sententionally consociated. As regards (2) Representability, which is a presentation to the mind in the form of an idea or image, is the very mechanism or function which IS performs when it exhibits the particular existential modality of an entity by way of the predicational information which it introduces, whether the entity [partially] described is a real object or an extantal reificant or metaphysical object. For the life of me I cannot see why you consider this to be a difficult concept either to grasp or explain, or why you consider the English language [or any language for that matter] incapable of communicating this description? Michael: For Heidegger as well as Parmenides, being and thinking are indissolubly and intimately re-lated, be-long to one another? Jud: Being WHAT? and Thinking WHAT? are indissolubly and intimately re-lated, be-long to one another? Michael: they long (desire, stretch towards) for each other: Jud: Words have no capacity for desiring or stretching towards anything. Michael: the being of thinking [being human] is in the thinking of being [human being]. Jud: There is no 'being of thinking.' There may well be the reverse - the "Thinking of being..." but that only raises a question [due to the missing predicate] of: "Thinking of being WHAT?" "He's thinking of being an astronaut." Michael: Thinking discursively about a word (say, "being") can only be a frustrating/revealing pathway to an other goal: to think being and not the word "being"; Jud: I agree with you that Heidegger's thinking of 'being' discursively in his typically rambling, disorganised manner was his Achilles' heel. Had he not fallen into the trap of employing this word he would be thought of as a rather interesting [if passé] philosopher, who treated of Greek history and its influence through the phenomenological compound eye of the psychological and socio/religious sensibilities of modern man. Michael: To remain caught up in the tangles and wrangles of historical and comparative linguistics, however fascinating, is to remain deflected from the thinking to be achieved. Jud: There are no tangles - no wrangles involved with the AITist [8-tist] analysis of language. ALL world languages respond to the formulaic precepts without exception and all can be subjected to the AITist criteria regarding copuletic function, copula depletion [Russian, Arabic, Hebrew etc] or so-called 'zero copula' languages [Austronesian etc.] Michael: Essentially (sorry, Jud, but it is a useful word...), Jud: No need to apologise Michael, I am not suggesting the ABOLITION of these words only an UNDERSTANDING of them. Michael: Heideggerian thinking (if it is thinking at all) is not about anything (any thing) Jud: I had to smile here - for the thought of all those books by Heidegger and about Heidegger being all about nothing - is a beautiful image, though I doubt if some members of this list who have written books upon the subject would be overly pleased at the suggestion that their work was empty of content or meaning. Michael: -- thinking-about-some-thing(s) is more the concern of scientists and their allies... Jud: Thinking about something whether one is transcendentally or scientifically orientated is part and parcel of the human condition - it is what makes us human and sets us apart from the animals. I do rather think that you are careering off in rather a wild tangent here Michael. Heidegger's works ABOUND with thoughts about THINGS - dip into them again to remind yourself. Michael: Such thinking-about achieves its most brilliant and extreme form when it seeks to become (in its speech) what it speaks/thinks about, when it becomes the perfect mouthpiece of its chosen whatness, e.g., speech that is as 'natural' as the nature of which it speaks... Jud: 'Thinking-about' doesn't seek anything at all, for it is the man or woman who seeks or 'thinks about' ways of communicating his/her thoughts in the most efficacious and crystal clear way possible for maximum conceptual intercourse. It is not some imaginary agent called 'thinking-about' which motivates your unusual and colourful choice of language, but rather a blending of your desire to represent your thoughts in a fresh, colourful and interesting manner, coupled with your natural propensity for creative imagery, [which is mirrored in your music and poetry] I am also sorry to suggest that there may also be a less benign dimension and that is either a reluctance or inability to phrase your observations with more clarity in the English language - a language which did not impede or handicap Shakespeare in the execution of his breathtaking representation of the most subtle and penetrating observations of the human condition. Set against this backcloth, I find your protestations that our language is inadequate for your communicative needs to be highly questionable. Michael: when its sub-ject/topic, its sub-jected matter (beings/things) rules it in its speech and thinking. In such a wonderful obsession, what enables and brings-to-light the very possibility of sub-jecting and topicalising and representing, etc. (being/no-thing), is neglected, even scorned. Jud: Alas, for though the thinking of it and the writing of it may bring you [and us too] joy and creative satisfaction, it is meaningful only as poetry or verbal music or as pretty brush-strokes - interesting and stimulating verbal scales and visual patterns which after the melody is over leave the hall in the same uneasy stillness that obtained before the performance. Michael: The very advantage of scientific (etc.) thinking lies in its neglectfulness and ignoring of that which rules its very possibility of neglecting and ignoring (that to which it belongs and is subject...) in the name of securing and grasping its matter (things, beings) as the matter to be thought, and thus, moving on to more profitable aims (e.g., producing useful knowledges). This is why (I think) we need Heideggerian thinking. Jud: In all this you are wrong for there are many scientists who as well as having highly pragmatic minds where their discipline is concerned have a deep sensitivity to things of the 'soul' - of existence - of eternity etc. Your opinion that such spiritual sensitivity is the preserve of existentialism sounds to me a bit elitist - but maybe it is the very elitism of Heideggerianism that makes it so interesting to the questioning mind? How can anyone STILL think this way we ask ourselves? What curious mental mechanism restrains and shuts down the engine of intellectual growth and curiosity and immobilizes it in a frozen sepia frame of pre-war German angst? Best wishes, Jud. --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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