Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 07:27:54 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?anna=20miller?= <ruboutthewords-AT-yahoo.co.in> Subject: Re: heaven forbid: heaven for bad all I know is this:HEidegger was a Nazi. He would have supported this war as he did the other one. --- Andrea Wheeler <wheelerandrea-AT-hotmail.com> wrote: > Dear Michael, > How are you? I'm sorry I've been out of touch. I've > just got internet access > at home. How do you feel about the "War on > Terrorism"? How are things with > you. I hope ypu wwill write and let me know. I know > you didn't want to talk > about andrea - but it would be nice if you did. > Love > Andrea > > > May the roads rise with you, > and the wind be always at your back; > May the sun shine warm upon your face. > May the rain fall soft upon your fields, > and until we meet again; > May the Lord hold you in the hollow of His hand. > > > > > >From: Michael Pennamacoor > <pennamacoor-AT-enterprise.net> > >Reply-To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > >To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > >Subject: heaven forbid: heaven for bad > >Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:58:23 +0000 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from [128.143.2.9] by hotmail.com (3.2) > with ESMTP id > >MHotMailBD6C9FB4004340043765808F0209E4780; Sat, 15 > Sep 2001 06:16:37 -0700 > >Received: from lists.village.virginia.edu by > mail.virginia.edu id aa27329; > > 15 Sep 2001 9:16 EDT > >Received: (from domo-AT-localhost)by > lists.village.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.0) > >id JAA11022for heidegger-outgoing; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 > 09:15:29 -0400 (EDT) > >Received: from ns0.enterprise.net > (ns0.enterprise.net [213.137.2.163])by > >lists.village.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP > id JAA11018for > ><heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>; Sat, 15 Sep > 2001 09:15:20 -0400 > >(EDT) > >Received: from [212.161.113.44] > (cmax01-044.enterprise.net > >[212.161.113.44])by ns0.enterprise.net > (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id > >f8FDF7Y11170for > <heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>; Sat, 15 Sep > 2001 > >14:15:08 +0100 (BST) > >From owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > Sat, 15 Sep 2001 06:18:08 > >-0700 > >X-Authentication-Warning: > lists.village.Virginia.EDU: domo set sender to > >owner-heidegger-AT-localhost using -f > >Message-Id: > <200109151315.f8FDF7Y11170-AT-ns0.enterprise.net> > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - > 4.01 (295) > >X-Priority: 3 > >Sender: owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > >Precedence: bulk > > > >fellow civilised humans > > > >an interesting article from Richard Dawkins > appeared in the Guardian > >today... hope this is > >appropriate: > > > > > > > > > >Religion's misguided missiles > > > >Promise a young man that death is not the end and > he will willingly cause > >disaster > > > >Special report: terrorism in the US > > > >Richard Dawkins > > > >Guardian, Saturday September 15, 2001 > > > >A guided missile corrects its trajectory as it > flies, homing in, say, on > >the heat of a jet > >planes exhaust. A great improvement on a simple > ballistic shell, it still > >cannot > >discriminate particular targets. It could not zero > in on a designated New > >York skyscraper > >if launched from as far away as Boston. > > > >That is precisely what a modern smart missile can > do. Computer > >miniaturisation has > >advanced to the point where one of todays smart > missiles could be > >programmed with an > >image of the Manhattan skyline together with > instructions to home in on the > >north tower of > >the World Trade Centre. Smart missiles of this > sophistication are possessed > >by the United > >States, as we learned in the Gulf war, but they are > economically beyond > >ordinary > >terrorists and scientifically beyond theocratic > governments. Might there be > >a cheaper and > >easier alternative? > > > >In the second world war, before electronics became > cheap and miniature, the > >psychologist > >BF Skinner did some research on pigeon-guided > missiles. The pigeon was to > >sit in a tiny > >cockpit, having previously been trained to peck > keys in such a way as to > >keep a designated > >target in the centre of a screen. In the missile, > the target would be for > >real. > > > >The principle worked, although it was never put > into practice by the US > >authorities. Even > >factoring in the costs of training them, pigeons > are cheaper and lighter > >than computers of > >comparable effectiveness. Their feats in Skinners > boxes suggest that a > >pigeon, after a > >regimen of training with colour slides, really > could guide a missile to a > >distinctive > >landmark at the southern end of Manhattan island. > The pigeon has no idea > >that it is > >guiding a missile. It just keeps on pecking at > those two tall rectangles on > >the screen, > >from time to time a food reward drops out of the > dispenser, and this goes > >on until > >oblivion. > > > >Pigeons may be cheap and disposable as on-board > guidance systems, but > >theres no escaping > >the cost of the missile itself. And no such missile > large enough to do much > >damage could > >penetrate US air space without being intercepted. > What is needed is a > >missile that is not > >recognised for what it is until too late. Something > like a large civilian > >airliner, > >carrying the innocuous markings of a well-known > carrier and a great deal of > >fuel. Thats > >the easy part. But how do you smuggle on board the > necessary guidance > >system? You can > >hardly expect the pilots to surrender the left-hand > seat to a pigeon or a > >computer. > > > >How about using humans as on-board guidance > systems, instead of pigeons? > >Humans are at > >least as numerous as pigeons, their brains are not > significantly costlier > >than pigeon > >brains, and for many tasks they are actually > superior. Humans have a proven > >track record > >in taking over planes by the use of threats, which > work because the > >legitimate pilots > >value their own lives and those of their > passengers. > > > >The natural assumption that the hijacker ultimately > values his own life > >too, and will act > >rationally to preserve it, leads air crews and > ground staff to make > >calculated decisions > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send a newsletter, share photos & files, conduct polls, organize chat events. 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