Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:53:17 -0700
From: Martin Bebow <Martin.Bebow-AT-asu.edu>
Subject: RE: oh yea


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The fact is that there is an imbalance of power in the world.  As long as
this imbalance exists there will be terrorism.  And none of us can claim to
be innocent bystanders.  

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From: Edward Moore [mailto:proteus28-AT-juno.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:47 AM
To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
Cc: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
Subject: Re: oh yea



On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:55:21 -0800 John Foster
<borealis-AT-mercuryspeed.com> writes:

> It seems to me that the real issue of concern is not with the 
> Taliban, nor
> any of these regional ethnic groups, but rather with the US which is 
> being
> motivated primarily by it's almost insatiable need for oil and gas. 

Right.  And I hope you remember this when you fire up the stove to cook
your turkey on Thursday, or when you adjust the thermostat in your study
on those cold winter nights.  

The "real issue of concern" is with how individuals provide for
themselves and their loved ones, in order to buy those precious moments
of leisure in which we can retreat from facticity and think on essential
Being -- or whatever it is we like to do in our spare time.  

The individuals who were busy working (or on their way to work) on the
morning of 9-11 were not soldiers in a giant capitalist army out to
conquer the world.  They were unique, autonomous individuals seeking the
comfort of a stable, material existence.

It seems to me that the present 'epoch' is causing otherwise intelligent
people to say really stupid things.  Habermas is a prime example.  He
referred to the World Trade Center as a "citadel of Western capitalism." 
It is this type of rhetoric -- using military terminology to describe an
office building where people earn their daily bread, if you will -- that
leads the unreflecting and unworldly among us to lean back in our easy
chairs at our university offices and thank the gods of Being that we are
not like all of them.  

Or, at its worse, it leads assholes like Habermas to suggest that the
terrorist attack was somehow justified, for if we refer to the WTC as a
"citadel" rather than as a simple office building(s), we subtly introduce
the idea that what occurred on 9-11 was a military attack on a military
installation.    

So, for me, the "real issue of concern" is with knowing when to let
language lie dormant ...

Regards,

Edward
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The fact is that there is an imbalance of power in the world.  As long as this imbalance exists there will be terrorism.  And none of us can claim to be innocent bystanders. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Moore [mailto:proteus28-AT-juno.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:47 AM
To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
Cc: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
Subject: Re: oh yea

On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:55:21 -0800 John Foster
<borealis-AT-mercuryspeed.com> writes:

> It seems to me that the real issue of concern is not with the
> Taliban, nor
> any of these regional ethnic groups, but rather with the US which is
> being
> motivated primarily by it's almost insatiable need for oil and gas.

Right.  And I hope you remember this when you fire up the stove to cook
your turkey on Thursday, or when you adjust the thermostat in your study
on those cold winter nights. 

The "real issue of concern" is with how individuals provide for
themselves and their loved ones, in order to buy those precious moments
of leisure in which we can retreat from facticity and think on essential
Being -- or whatever it is we like to do in our spare time. 

The individuals who were busy working (or on their way to work) on the
morning of 9-11 were not soldiers in a giant capitalist army out to
conquer the world.  They were unique, autonomous individuals seeking the
comfort of a stable, material existence.

It seems to me that the present 'epoch' is causing otherwise intelligent
people to say really stupid things.  Habermas is a prime example.  He
referred to the World Trade Center as a "citadel of Western capitalism."
It is this type of rhetoric -- using military terminology to describe an
office building where people earn their daily bread, if you will -- that
leads the unreflecting and unworldly among us to lean back in our easy
chairs at our university offices and thank the gods of Being that we are
not like all of them. 

Or, at its worse, it leads assholes like Habermas to suggest that the
terrorist attack was somehow justified, for if we refer to the WTC as a
"citadel" rather than as a simple office building(s), we subtly introduce
the idea that what occurred on 9-11 was a military attack on a military
installation.   

So, for me, the "real issue of concern" is with knowing when to let
language lie dormant ...

Regards,

Edward
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