File spoon-archives/heidegger.archive/heidegger_2001/heidegger.0111, message 129


Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:13:23 +0000 (GMT)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?anna=20miller?= <ruboutthewords-AT-yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: oh yea- yankees germans


 So typical you write you sound like a chomsky
personage which is fine. I do not agree that USA is
responsible for all of these crimes.
Where would you and anyone be without USa to save us
from Nazi germans ? Or nazi Japanese for that matter??
And their concentrationc amps and gaz camps and so on.
You wish to save the arabs and others, I say let them
save themselves. Who freed westerners and others from
their tyrannies , they did so they are responsible tot
ake their own fate. When I say dont trust germans I
was excessive. Let me clarify, let us not trust the
recent germans of say the time back to bismarck and
even until now. they are st ill occupied by their
guilt and remorse their sentimental slavering over
guilt and wrong doing of the past, oh yes there are
millions not liek this, but they are few compared to
the others; the consumer class of germany is
capitalist and nazi therefore dangerous to free
democratic thought. it is so easy to condemn USA when
it is there and you are free to speak. Go and try and
speak in Syria or Iraq they cut your heart out in one
day and rape your mother and kids and torture your
body. and where is Mister Aunthenticity then with his
dasein and the presence of death? he is nowwhere to be
found but in black forest of shit and lies. what
mental games he played will be forgotten in one
hundred years. he was not a great thinker compared to
Nietzsche and Foucault. It is easy to attack Uncle Sam
and Usa when you are free but recall most of the
freedoms of the world today are based on French adn
American ideas of freedom and of course marx to some
extent the rest is tyranny.

I have more comments which I have attached throughout.
--- John Foster <borealis-AT-mercuryspeed.com> wrote: >
Anna wrote earlier:
> 
> >My motto: Never Trust a German even 100
> >years later almost. _ Never trust a nazi. no matter
one thousand years later. A thousand year reich how
sickening.
> 
> 
> I guess that some nationalities could be trusted by
> Anna. I wonder if
> "Americans" are to be trusted? After all the US
> Government has bombed 39  -- THis remark does not
make sense! WHO Would Consent to be Bombed!! Are you
Naive! Do you think Politics is about Love!\!\
> countries without their consent. -- USA was wrong
about Chile I agree.
> 
> I personally could trust some Germans. I have
o it.... Good for you.
> 
> "The US supported and supplied the Taliban with
> billions of dollars in"- Your facts are false, they
supported the Old Alliance before it became Northern
Allianece. and IF they did support Taliban it Does Not
make Taliaban less ACcountable but MORe So.

> armaments and cash to fight a proxy war with it's
> arch enemy, the USSR.
> Osama bin Laden was trained by the CIA, and was an
> agent for the CIA. Did
OSAma is an adult and responsible for his actions. If
there is ethics and choice HE the evil man is
accountable and responsible and answerable for His OWn
Actions. I cannot believe you say this.

> the US government really care about what civil
> rights the Taliban were"

-- Taliban were barbarian who killed and tortured
women
Taliban were tryants. and it is so with all tyrants
they must be overthrown. Mandela also supported
military actions against them. THey should be glad USA
did not go All out and really give them the works.

> had to have any one
> assist it momentarily.
> --------------- Americans are limited in what the
others are doing over there . FOR now.
> The United Nations has information indicating that
> the Northern Alliance has
> committed 'mass executions'? Is the US or the UK
--------------------------------------------
Germany had no choice but to sign as they have shown
the western world they were wicked. They have no real
military force, but had they god help us. I trust USA
over them anytime. Sorry. you have ideals about german
militarism. Read what Nietzsche says about them.
Terrible barbarians of Europe dangerous, violent and
very smart and unready for the civiilized world.
Pakistan will never use atomic weapons if they wish to
survive. if they did USA would strike back so fast it
would not exist again forever. If any ONe dares to use
Atomic weapons they should be striken and hard and
fast to stop them and the USA will never first strike.
It is not in their interst, whereas Germany under
Hitler and others were working toward just this goal.
 but Germany
> has been signatory? How is more to be trusted? The
> US or Pakistan? Or is
> Germany more trustworthy? I would agree that Germany
> is to be trusted above
> France, since Germany has no nuclear warheads.
> However France does have  a
> lot of nuclear weapons, and has tested them in the
> Pacific releasing
> radiation into the ecosphere.
> 
> I think that all the NSDAP (Nazi) are either dead or
> incompetent at murder,
> but not the US government, the French government,
> nor the Pakistan
> government. It seems to me that the German people
> therefore are much more
> 'civilized' and rational than the French, the
> American, and the Brit,
> especially if they are carpet bombing civilians,
> etc., in Afghanistan.-- USA IS NOT CARPET BOMBING
ANYONE BUT SOLDIERS. Sorry Soldiers but do not go to
war with enemies if you wish to be not harmed.
> 
> The problem now is that Pakistan is no more
> 'unstable' than it ever was, yet
> both Canada and the US have removed 'trade
> restrictions' and forgiven up to
> $2 billion in debt. Apparently some nuclear
> materials were supplied to the
> Al Queda network from Pakistan which was the only
> other country in the world
> that recognized the independent state of Afghanistan
> ruled by the Taliban
> (there are one or two other Muslim nations which
> also accept the Taliban).
> 
> It seems to me that the real issue of concern is not
> with the Taliban, nor
> any of these regional ethnic groups, but rather with
> the US which is being
> motivated primarily by it's almost insatiable need
> for oil and gas. It
> appears to me that the US will support any
> organization to meet it's short
> term objectives. The examples of Noriega in Panama
> is one good example...
> 
> Who do you trust? The nation with multiple nuclear
> warheads or the nation
> without nuclear warheads?
> 
> chao
> 
> john foster
-------------

I wish i could answer you more coherently but it gets
my goat to see USa blamed for everyhting. All of the
whiners who cannot get anywhere blame american for all
of their ills. Anyhow, I am leaving this list.

bye

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