Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:04:13 +0100
From: artefact-AT-t-online.de (Michael Eldred)
Subject: Re: Zollikon: Unconscious


Cologne 18-Nov-2001

Michael Hoppe schrieb   Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:01:26 +0100:

> > Mother and baby share world in a very particular, special way. The
> >mother has to
> > care for her baby's needs, since the baby is more or less helpless.
> >The baby and
> > its world are part of, i.e. belong to, the mother's everyday world of
> > caring-for-others and taking-care-of-things, and that in a pronounced
> >way. The
> > baby's world, its relation to things and others, is marked strongly by its
> > neediness. The mother identifies with her baby's world. What does
> >this mean? It
> > means simply that the baby's world is part of the mother's world, i.e. it
> > belongs to the mother's world in the sense of taking-care-of and
> >caring-for. In
> > belonging to the mother's particular world, the mother is attuned to
> >the baby's
> > world in its neediness. In being attuned, the mother is also _able to_
> > (Seinkoennen!) inkle the baby's specific needs at a given time.
>
> Well, but what about baby's Dasein?  It's surely different from an
> adult one, significantly due the lack of speech.  Is there any
> reference where Heidegger deals about baby-Dasein?

Michael,
In Monty Python, all philosophers are called Bruce. Here on the Heidegger agora
it seems otherwise.

Yes, baby's Dasein is surely different from an adult one. They can only be
different because they are the same, namely, they are both Dasein. That is
mostly overlooked. So baby Dasein can only be chararterized as a determinate
type of modification of Dasein sans phrase. You point to one feature: baby
Dasein _lacks_ speech. Aristotle calls 'lacking' _steraesis_ (loss, robbing,
being robbed). In investigations into the determination of essence, _steraesis_
sometimes plays a part. In other respects, baby Dasein could be a 'more'. The
_steraesis_ of baby Dasein lacking speech goes hand in hand with a mother being
more attuned to inkling, or maybe just guessing  its unarticulated needs. Baby's
articulateness is reduced to crying when it feels discomfort and smiling,
gurgling or being still when it is satisfied. Baby's inarticulateness is
predestined to becoming more articulate. Baby Dasein is oriented toward the end
or _telos_ of acquiring language, thus overcoming this lack.

What is most important, however, is in the first place to be clear about Dasein,
i.e. human being, itself. That is where the greatest unclarity, unsureness and
confusion lies. Proceeding to a determination of differences without first
getting Dasein straight is a waste of time. This is exemplified in Hans Saner's
(Jaspers' editor) notion of "Gebuertlichkeit" (bornness) which he adopted from
Arendt. Sloterdijk, in turn, has taken up this notion, say, in his _Zur Welt
kommen, zur Sprache kommen_ (Coming to the world, coming to language). What is
thought as human being in Heidegger's thinking of Dasein gets short shrift and
degenerates and is flattened out into solely ontic and ontogenetic notions in
these other authors.

I don't recall off-hand whether and where Heidegger talks about baby Dasein. I
vaguely remember there being something somewhere, perhaps in the _Zollikon
Seminars_.

Michael
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