Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:26:07 +0000 Subject: Re: <fwd>Wallerstein's Dec. 5 Lecture From: "Michael Pennamacoor" <pennamacoor-AT-enterprise.net> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3091598767_580719_MIME_Part tudor quoting me: michaelP [...can we hope for] >post-religious humanity? I am including all forms of religiosity in the >term 'religious': religions, patriotisms, ideologies, ethnicities, >paganisms, tribalisms, nationalisms, communisms, partisanships, etc. > tudor: >Yeah, a totally washed brain believes nothing! michaelP: with an ear cocked in the direction of michaelE's recent take on Junger, I must say that I find it hard to think seriously how one can take both religiosities (as exemplified in my speech above) and Heidegger seriously... modernity (including Nietzsche and Heidegger, following Kant, Hegel, Marx et al) has shattered the eternity (eternal presence) and transcendence of the 'theological' into a continuous discontinuity of moments each differentiating itself from and to the 'next'... a 'process' of dissolution and resolution, of emergence and submergence (from and into the 'merge') -- being silenced/absented in and by beings; the art-world-play of the will-to-power (and nothing else); history as radical re-membering-cum-forgetting; etc. World War Three is not the conflict with terrorisms, but the already long since begun terrific strife between the total mobilisation of the markets (the very shattering of the good into goodies) and the resources (human and non-human) of the earth (total exploitation) -- and -- the brutality of religious (and, note, simply irreligious!) humanity left abandoned by the rotting corpses of godhood (whether that godhood is seen in terms of God, gods or transcendent belief systems (nationalisms, race, etc)). In that terror, ('the horror, the horror'), I should rather believe in nothing (whatever that means) than... what? dancing the apocalypso now, then? disturbed michaelP --MS_Mac_OE_3091598767_580719_MIME_Part
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