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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:26:07 +0000
Subject: Re: <fwd>Wallerstein's Dec. 5 Lecture


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tudor quoting me:

michaelP [...can we hope for]
>post-religious humanity? I am including all forms of religiosity in the 
>term 'religious': religions, patriotisms, ideologies, ethnicities, 
>paganisms, tribalisms, nationalisms, communisms, partisanships, etc.
>
tudor:
>Yeah, a totally washed brain believes nothing! 

michaelP:
with an ear cocked in the direction of michaelE's recent take on Junger, I must say that I
find it hard to think seriously how one can take both religiosities (as exemplified in my
speech above) and Heidegger seriously... modernity (including Nietzsche and Heidegger,
following Kant, Hegel, Marx et al) has shattered the eternity (eternal presence) and
transcendence of the 'theological' into a continuous discontinuity of moments each
differentiating itself from and to the 'next'... a 'process' of dissolution and
resolution, of emergence and submergence (from and into the 'merge') -- being
silenced/absented in and by beings; the art-world-play of the will-to-power (and nothing
else); history as radical re-membering-cum-forgetting; etc.

World War Three is not the conflict with terrorisms, but the already long since begun
terrific strife between the total mobilisation of the markets (the very shattering of the
good into goodies) and the resources (human and non-human) of the earth (total
exploitation) -- and -- the brutality of religious (and, note, simply irreligious!)
humanity left abandoned by the rotting corpses of godhood (whether that godhood is seen in
terms of God, gods or transcendent belief systems (nationalisms, race, etc)). In that
terror, ('the horror, the horror'), I should rather believe in nothing (whatever that
means) than...

what?

dancing the apocalypso now, then?

disturbed

michaelP


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Re: <fwd>Wallerstein's Dec. 5 Lecture tudor quoting me:

michaelP [...can we hope for]
>post-religious humanity? I am including all forms of religiosity in the
>term 'religious': religions, patriotisms, ideologies, ethnicities,
>paganisms, tribalisms, nationalisms, communisms, partisanships, etc.
>
tudor:
>Yeah, a totally washed brain believes nothing!

michaelP:
with an ear cocked in the direction of michaelE's recent take on Junger, I must say that I find it hard to think seriously how one can take both religiosities (as exemplified in my speech above) and Heidegger seriously... modernity (including Nietzsche and Heidegger, following Kant, Hegel, Marx et al) has shattered the eternity (eternal presence) and transcendence of the 'theological' into a continuous discontinuity of moments each differentiating itself from and to the 'next'... a 'process' of dissolution and resolution, of emergence and submergence (from and into the 'merge') -- being silenced/absented in and by beings; the art-world-play of the will-to-power (and nothing else); history as radical re-membering-cum-forgetting; etc.

World War Three is not the conflict with terrorisms, but the already long since begun terrific strife between the total mobilisation of the markets (the very shattering of the good into goodies) and the resources (human and non-human) of the earth (total exploitation) -- and -- the brutality of religious (and, note, simply irreligious!) humanity left abandoned by the rotting corpses of godhood (whether that godhood is seen in terms of God, gods or transcendent belief systems (nationalisms, race, etc)). In that terror, ('the horror, the horror'), I should rather believe in nothing (whatever that means) than...

what?

dancing the apocalypso now, then?

disturbed

michaelP

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