Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 10:52:25 -0800
From: Kenneth Johnson <kenn-AT-beef.sparks.nv.us>
Subject: Re: Back from Travels




>> Heidegger would come with the explanation that today vanishes even the
>> sacred, which is the trace of the lost gods. Lost to me, not to Him. But
>> this kind of answers cannot be understood if one did not previously ask
>> for it. In metaphysics there are a lot of things which one cannot
>> perceive, even if he would have the best magisters. Think of Plato's
>> view: nothing is learned, all is remembered. Thus, the most important
>> thing in philosophy is not the theory, but the seeker.
>>
>> This happens, as Heidegger showed in Introduction to Metaphysics,  53,
>> because the knowledge is acquired thelemically, from thelesma=will.
>> Reaching truth is therefore not a question of reading the right books of
>> attending the right classes, but a destiny, i.e. one choice following
>> another.
>>
>
>Hi Tudor,
>
>If one is seeking something then that means one does not have something.
>Something sacred or what you take to be most valuable and precious must be
>missing if not lost. Perhaps the sacred always has the tendency to
>dissappear and withdraw and so must always be won back, called again and
>again. Given that seeking is a will then how a choice is made is just a way
>of calling what is missing. Say in Jung you have the goal of attaining a
>balance in your calling but that implies knowing how to talk to your anima
>or animus depending of who you are and what period of life you are in. This
>seems to me what is most important,  knowing how to go about finding that
>something you are seeking for and that means working on the direction of
>your will, on it's sense and meaning or lack thereof. Is there any sense to
>seeking something one has found and not lost? No, that would be the end of
>the will, non-sense...
>
>
>Gulio
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hello Gulio,

just wondering where in continental philosophy after N the root message
that underwrites 'the sacred' fits. Isn't this now no more than a miasmic
signifier, one that should be paved over, gotten beyond, risen above by us
(us as the sharpest point of a flourescent Life Force) because of all the
psychic or literal deaths of potential thinkers who unwittingly or
dimwittingly allowed themselves to get trapped over all these extremly
noxious fumes rising up from an "evaporating reality"? this not to mention
all the wars fought by contesting claiments (divine messengers) addicted to
these 'sacred' fumes, begun by those who long ago had lost their deep inner
sense of smell and remain still so today, as, say, in afghaneestan or
saltlakeciteestan - -

I must say i never expected to find such a crop of wimpy life force modules
in such congregate here at the site of a major philosopher's list. It all
seems to serve as no more than an example of a successful con, falling for
nothing more than "the word", to wit:


"This has given me the greatest trouble and still does: to realize that
what things _are called_ is incomparably more important than what they are.
The reputation, name, and appearance, the usual measure and weight of a
thing, what it counts for--ORIGINALLY ALMOST ALWAYS WRONG AND ARBITRARY,
THROWN OVER THINGS LIKE A DRESS AND ALTOGETHER FOREIGN [as in FOREIGN
FOREIGN FOREIGN] TO THEIR NATURE AND EVEN TO THEIR SKIN--all this grows
from generation unto generation, merely because people believe in it, until
it gradually grows to be part of the thing and turns into its very body.
What at first was appearance becomes in the end, almost invariably, the
essence, and is effective as such. How foolish it would be to suppose that
one only needs to point out this origin and this misty shroud of delusion
in order to _destroy_ the world that counts for real, so-called "reality."
We can destroy only as crators. _But let us not forget this either: it is
enough to create new names and estimations and probabilties in order to
create in the long run new "things."" - [GS #58]

regards, 'n thanx agin for "the song"!!!!!!!!!!!!

kenneth




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