From: "Tudor Georgescu" <tgeorgescu-AT-home.nl>
Subject: RE: Back from Travels
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:56:36 +0100


> If one is seeking something then that means one does not have
something.

You are searching for the tree of life. To put it in Heideggerian terms:
if you do not know what a tree is, how would you recognize the tree?

As for classicism, which is valuating what is still worth, I wonder how
one that understood Heidegger still follows the lead of worthiness. He
interpreted Plato's Good as what enables, what allows existing. No moral
connotations other than "live and let live".

"But let us not forget this either: it is enough to create new names and
estimations and probabilities in order to create in the long run new
"things."" - This is the opposite of Heidegger's thinking, which wanted
to reach the reality behind names.

Nietzsche was indeed negating negation, yet he failed to affirm a
ground. Heidegger understood his quest, and extracted from it the
critique of idealism. Heidegger's implicit religiousness is more one of
being authentic in every day life, while no moral value is assigned to
authenticity. I lived in a totalitarian country; therefore I know what a
compromise has to do an intellectual. In his appreciation of "inner
greatness of the Movement" he saw the rebellion against clichés and the
absolute technical state, rebellion which Nazism did not fulfill, but it
felt from bad to worse, as any half measure, for it has only taken as
granted the scientifically defined human being, which Heidegger sees as
originating in zoon logos ekon. Therefore, the Holocaust seems to be a
consequence of the beginning of occidental thinking:

Habakkuk 2:19 "Woe unto him that saith to the wood, Awake; to the dumb
stone, Arise, it shall teach! Behold, it [is] laid over with gold and
silver, and [there is] no breath at all in the midst of it."

As I understand this verse, breath means spirit, i.e. some have this
spirit some don't. Heraclites' dogs and donkeys (fragment 9 and 97). The
only problem is who judges them: the spiritless or their Creator.
Heidegger says: "to be human rests a mystery inaccessible to
understanding" — _Introduction in Metaphysics_, paragraph 52.c.

> This
> seems to me what is most important,  knowing how to go about finding
that
> something you are seeking for and that means working on the direction
of
> your will, on it's sense and meaning or lack thereof. Is there any
sense
> to seeking something one has found and not lost?

For me, will, be it my consciously manifest will or my hidden intentions
which manifest despite it, is the only thing capable of giving meaning
to a life which knows not the final meaning, for this meaning is not
possible to be formulated. God must have put it clear: I do not tell you
which way to go, I can only say: this is a way that leads to life, and
that way leads to death. This seems to me the core of the Scriptures.
Yet, He nowhere said: this or that is the meaning of life.

To be is to become, to exist.

Jethro, Priest of On

 

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> >
> > Heidegger would come with the explanation that today vanishes even
the
> > sacred, which is the trace of the lost gods. Lost to me, not to Him.
But
> > this kind of answers cannot be understood if one did not previously
ask
> > for it. In metaphysics there are a lot of things which one cannot
> > perceive, even if he would have the best magisters. Think of Plato's
> > view: nothing is learned, all is remembered. Thus, the most
important
> > thing in philosophy is not the theory, but the seeker.
> >
> > This happens, as Heidegger showed in Introduction to Metaphysics,
53,
> > because the knowledge is acquired thelemically, from thelesma=will.
> > Reaching truth is therefore not a question of reading the right
books of
> > attending the right classes, but a destiny, i.e. one choice
following
> > another.
> >
> 
> Hi Tudor,
> 
> If one is seeking something then that means one does not have
something.
> Something sacred or what you take to be most valuable and precious
must be
> missing if not lost. Perhaps the sacred always has the tendency to
> dissappear and withdraw and so must always be won back, called again
and
> again. Given that seeking is a will then how a choice is made is just
a
> way
> of calling what is missing. Say in Jung you have the goal of attaining
a
> balance in your calling but that implies knowing how to talk to your
anima
> or animus depending of who you are and what period of life you are in.
> This
> seems to me what is most important,  knowing how to go about finding
that
> something you are seeking for and that means working on the direction
of
> your will, on it's sense and meaning or lack thereof. Is there any
sense
> to
> seeking something one has found and not lost? No, that would be the
end of
> the will, non-sense...
> 
> 
> Gulio
> 
> 
> 
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