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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 13:50:15 EST
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From: pennamacoor-AT-enterprise.net (Michael Pennamacoor)

Jud on being somewhat re-jected:  Hen, (it means 'old' in my language)

Michael: 
'hen' means 'one' (as on the other side of the hyp-hen hyphen opposite and
joined to 'under' ('hyp')) in Greek. . .

Jud: 
 Your approach should be a little bit more cautiously empirical Michael - the
name - my name - 'Evans' should have given you a clue as to the language to
which I was referring? Yes, you have probably put two and two together by
now? Welsh. 'Hen' means 'old' in Welsh - the little Greek lesson (though
unnecessary) was quite charming and welcome as a divertimento.

Jud:(previously)
I spent an hour writing a long bitter and detailed reply to your post, (a
classical Catweasle type riposte) It's in my archives - anyone who wants to
read it - can - if they e-mail me privately. I may upload it, (if I can) to
the Heidy List records - I may post it to the AIT webpage - for posterity -
if not - it's no great loss.  My new policy is not to enter into discussions
with people of your particular type.

Michael\:
isn't there a figure of speech whereupon one says that and what one is not
going to say? ; -)

Jud:
My rhetorical metholated afterburner you mean - my apophasic playful
puppyishness in adapting means to ends?

Talking of playfulness - I've just read a good gag by another merry funster
on this list. Apparently the reason for little boys 'being-there', is so that
if (for example) there are such things as cookies - the cookies can get to be
shared out.
Geddit? 
No=E2=80=A6?
OK, I'll put it again in another way - the little boys are the  entities
for-which the cookies are shared - the raison d'etre for the great cookie
share-out.. Good joke huh?
What's that you say -  'Not very funny?' Ah well! All jokes lose some of
their drollery when they are unbolted I suppose? The full impact of the jape
hits you when you read the actual original thigh-slapper, in which he says
that: if there were  "human nature" (even in the loose sense) like "common
sense, " that essence would make being-with a KIND of fundamental mode of
Dasein. Dasein is that entity for-which human nature is shared. " So humans
are here so that they can have a good laugh when someone slips on a banana
are they? Well why not - it's part of human nature isn't it? It would make a
good defence for a crook though wouldn't it? 

Judge: 
"Dasein Johnson you stand before me accused of robbery with violence."

Dasein Johnson:
 (cracking his knuckles like Uriah Heap) 
"I only robbed that little old lady of her life-savings because it is part of
my human nature, for the strong (bares arm and shows biceps) to want to
dominate the weak your honour - I plead innocent on the grounds of incipient 
'Daseinic teleologicalism' (gasps all around the court.) You see Sir, with me
it was a case of falling-in-with (Daseinic thieves) you could say it was my
way of being authentic if you like. Would the court prefer me to be
inauthentic?  That's why I - we Daseinic 'entities' - are thrown into the
world in the first place your honour - so that we can slip into our
ready-to-wear teleological Daseinic skins (rather like Hannibal Lector) and
all get a share of human ends or purposes, (even in the loose (skin) sense,)
why =E2=80=93 even when I was in the womb I just couldn't wait to be born to get my
slice of the quality of being human - you can't blame me for the fact that my
share included a propensity for bashing up and robbing old ladies, whilst
yours included an ability to knuckle down to the serious study of law can
you? "Remember your honour the purpose of being born is to fulfil our destiny
as the entities for-which human nature is shared.

Judge:
"Do you mean to say that we are born in order that human nature can be shared
out =E2=80=93 that our raison-d'etre is to participate in the great Bingo-game
distribution of human nature - is that what you are saying you rogue?"

Dasein Johnson:
"You got it one Judgey-boy."

Judge:
Well it looks like a bad day at Blackrock for you   Mr Dasein Johnson, for
part of human nature is to have a strong dislike of displays of arrogance and
of people taking the Michael out of this court with ridiculous pleas based on
the ravings of some chawbacon from the Black Forrest. You are herebye
sentenced to 15 years hard labour of the authentic type, and will spend the
whole period of your incarceration hitting rocks with a large hammer.

Dasein Johnson:
Can you pick your rocks your Honour?

Judge:
Guards! Take him down!

Like someone said: "Things get curious and curiouser when one attempts to
defend the insupportable - people perform all sorts of rummy semantic
tortuousness. This position (joke) is one of the most entertaining I've
observed to date however - how in the world did Dasein Jones manage to get
his mouth so close to his derriere? Do you suppose he is made of
India-rubber, or maybe he has no bones? Better ask the funster to explain?

The gagman was wrong again of course, Descartes' cogito was seen as a
fundamental confirmation of HE HIMSELF being alive and capable of cognition. 
 Sadly Descartes is flawed in his: "I think therefore I am" (alive) truism,
for he neglected to finish the sentence off =E2=80=93 and tell us all exactly WHAT he
was. Maybe he had to rush out before he finished off the sentence to buy a
baguette before the shops closed?  Luckily we have the nous to work it out
without his help: "I think therefore I am alive."  To be alive of course is
an existential modality.

BE, is, am, are, was etc only ever address an existential modality (in all
world languages) and not simple existence, and be, being, etc and all the
other members of the merry mirthful modalic cluster are not viable as
predicational orphans in the same way as Shakespeare's: 'To be or not to be'
(alive.) in spite of all of Heidegger's attempts to tease and fluff it into=20a
periwig of plain old fashioned presence to cover the baldness of his
transcendental tonsure and the loopy 'ideas' that lay beneath his pulsating
pate.

Warm best wishes,

Jud.


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