Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:04:11 +0100
From: artefact-AT-t-online.de (Michael Eldred)
Subject: Re: Eleventh thesis on Feuerbach


Cologne 28-Feb-2002

PS. Seen today on a car as advertising slogan for a German telecom
company, Mobilcom: 

"Preise veraendern die Welt."
"Prices change the world."

Thus does Marx's thinking get cast in the everyday-historical world.

Michael
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Datum: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:33:20 +0100
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Cologne 27-Feb-2002

Stuart Elden schrieb Wed, 27 Feb 2002 17:31:33 -0000:

> I'm not going to reply to all of those mails that have followed mine, but
> will try to say something.
>
> Michael (E) - thanks for posting the reference, and the date of 1969. I
> don't disagree with Rene's suggestion about the unimportance of dates
> ultimately here, but sometimes it's useful to be historical.
>
> Could I trouble you to post the German original of the 11th thesis - this
> would help to answer Phil's question about the translation.
>
> Michael (P) - i don't remember in detail what else was in the collection. My
> recollection was that it was essays by people about Heidegger rather than
> anything else by him.
>
> Rene - can i just ask you to clarify the remark "this too becomes clear on
> the basis of the GA edition" - do you mean the GA edition of Vortraege und
> Aufsaetze? I've not seen this - only the 4th German edition, which is in a
> single volume (not like the three volume earlier edition. Is there anything
> extra in the GA edition? Presumably there are the comments from Heidegger's
> own copy like in GA2 and others?
>
> (As an aside here - to anyone - is the new Polt translation of Introduction
> to Metaphysics any good? Does it translate the GA edition or the earlier
> German one? That is, are Heidegger's marginal notes included?)
>
> Thanks
>
> Stuart
>
>

Stuart,

"11    Die Philosophen haben die Welt nur verschieden _interpretiert_,
es koemmt
drauf an, sie zu _veraendern_." (MS, early 1845 MEW3:7)      [koemmt
sic]

"11    Die Philosophen haben die Welt nur verschieden _interpretiert_;
es kommt
aber darauf an, sie zu _veraendern_." (Nach dem von Engels 1888
veroeffentlichten Text MEW3:535)


Michael
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