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Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 17:20:26 +0000
Subject: Re: Plato's nihilism
From: "Michael Pennamacoor" <pennamacoor-AT-enterprise.net>


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Rene recently in response to Tudor:

>At 21:04 4-2-02 +0100, you wrote:
>>> At the
>>> moment, that the position of a country or of an institution
>>> is endangered, values are thrown overboard, first the 'highest' ones.
>>> That is nihilism, and very real.
>>
>>You're a perfect humanist, but not yet a Heideggerian. Check paragraph
>>43 of Introduction in Metaphysics, and you'll have it threefold way:
>
>What has Heidegger's interpretation of Parmenides to do with my statement?
>
>Values/Werte are exchangable, because the same, das Gleiche, in the
>Wiederkehr des Gleichen. So the discussions here in re values bring merely 
>the same again and again. They fill up the void, left behind by the
>letting-out
>of the staying-out of what never can have value but only worth to be
>dignified.
>Through asking, not knowing.

May I add: value-thinking (viewing beings totally as beings-for-X {the enhancement of some
form of life or constellation of the will-to-power}) is one (possibly penultimate) epoch
of the forgetting and dissolution of being (occlusion by beings, by what presences in its
presence) and thus necessarily is always already an eternal repetition of the re-solutions
and dis-solutions of beings (for-X). Can we even ask as to the value of values (the
positing of value-thinking)? The Good of values? What do values hide or erase in coming to
the fore, in being e-valuated, de-valuated and re-evaluated? And what does this hiding
show? This is to turn away from the idle chattering that is the concentrating upon values
and its (non)thinking, but towards what? What races and rides silently invisibly alongside
the extinction of beings-as-beings in the being-exchange of value thinking? This racer can
itself have no value, can be nothing worth (because values are themselves 'emanations'
'deposits' {etc} of 'it'); the essence of values is not itself valuable... [running out of
steam, but the questions persist...]

It is indeed a long ride from Plato's The Good as the source of intelligibility of all
sensible and sensual beings to the domination of all beings by the capitalist market place
-- the rule of goods and their exchange. But, again, what accompanies this darkling and
darkening sojourn from the Sun to the Cave?

michaelP

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Re: Plato's nihilism Rene recently in response to Tudor:

>At 21:04 4-2-02 +0100, you wrote:
>>> At the
>>> moment, that the position of a country or of an institution
>>> is endangered, values are thrown overboard, first the 'highest' ones.
>>> That is nihilism, and very real.
>>
>>You're a perfect humanist, but not yet a Heideggerian. Check paragraph
>>43 of Introduction in Metaphysics, and you'll have it threefold way:
>
>What has Heidegger's interpretation of Parmenides to do with my statement?
>
>Values/Werte are exchangable, because the same, das Gleiche, in the
>Wiederkehr des Gleichen. So the discussions here in re values bring merely
>the same again and again. They fill up the void, left behind by the
>letting-out
>of the staying-out of what never can have value but only worth to be
>dignified.
>Through asking, not knowing.

May I add: value-thinking (viewing beings totally as beings-for-X {the enhancement of some
form of life or constellation of the will-to-power}) is one (possibly penultimate) epoch
of the forgetting and dissolution of being (occlusion by beings, by what presences in its
presence) and thus necessarily is always already an eternal repetition of the re-solutions
and dis-solutions of beings (for-X). Can we even ask as to the value of values (the
positing of value-thinking)? The Good of values? What do values hide or erase in coming to the fore, in being e-valuated, de-valuated and re-evaluated? And what does this hiding show? This is to turn away from the idle chattering that is the concentrating upon values and its (non)thinking, but towards what? What races and rides silently invisibly alongside the extinction of beings-as-beings in the being-exchange of value thinking? This racer can itself have no value, can be nothing worth (because values are themselves 'emanations' 'deposits' {etc} of 'it'); the essence of values is not itself valuable... [running out of steam, but the questions persist...]

It is indeed a long ride from Plato's The Good as the source of intelligibility of all sensible and sensual beings to the domination of all beings by the capitalist market place -- the rule of goods and their exchange. But, again, what accompanies this darkling and darkening sojourn from the Sun to the Cave?

michaelP
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