From: "Allen Scult" <tristamigistus-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Unnatural Lingual Acts
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:08:50 -0600


>From: Michael Eldred <artefact-AT-t-online.de>
>Reply-To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: Re: Unnatural Lingual Acts
>Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:01:15 +0100
>
>Cologne 20-Feb-2002
>
>allen scult schrieb  Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:42:27 -0600:
>
> > At 5:14 PM -0500 2/19/02, GEVANS613-AT-aol.com wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> >> My own thoughts here [for what they are worth] are that our
> >> wonderful language is equipped to cater for any thoughts that are
> >> thinkable, and there is no necessity to misdirect, bend and braid
> >> or otherwise wrongfully employ any words to describe a feeling or
> >> thought.  It is true that words can be utilised and marshalled in
> >> fresh and appealing ways, to tickle the fancy, to entertain  and to
> >> engender interest - and that is what (IMO) makes the difference
> >> between a good writer and an unremarkable one. Shakespeare and most
> >> of the greats certainly used language innovatively, but as far as I
> >> know they never deliberately falsified language (as Heidegger the
> >> 'beingophile' did) forcing  and de-flowering innocent young words
> >> into unspeakably grotesque syntactical positions during grossly
> >> unnatural semantic acts in the overheated privacy of his closet.
> >> ;-)
> >
> >   I think we need to recognize the importance of the fact that these
> > positions are assumed, and these acts performed by mutually consenting
> > adults, serious about philosophy.  It is that mutual consent with
> > serious intent to perform philosophy which gives to any linguistic act
> > the potential to evoke a sense of being "true to. . . ," or to be "a
> > true expression of. . ." But now to get to the substance of the
> > matter, namely Being-as-such, and its accessablity to linguistic acts,
> > natural or unnatural.  Hoping that the horny among us will not get
> > carried away by the possibilities for foolishness in my metaphors, I
> > would venture to say that the answer lies "between," that is in the
> > possibilities of a Sichverstehen( I know I've been overusing that word
> > lately, but I've fallen in love with it) on the matter, which seems to
> > accompany certain sayings, willing to be heard as saying the matter
> > truly, in a way that is true to it,  as it needs to be understood.
> > Heidegger makes much of Sichverstehen as the communicative
> > manifestation of Dasein's understanding of itself as being-with.  I
> > asked a German friend of mine about whether Sichverstehen was a
> > commonly used expression in German. " Rare" she said, and then went on
> > to say " But you can't have communication without it."I sometimes get
> > the feeling that what Heidegger is talking about is the rare in the
> > everyday. Allen
>
>Allen,
>
>Sichverstehen, a substantivization of 'sich verstehen', 'to understand
>each other', thus: 'understanding each other'.
>'Wir verstehen uns gut' = 'We get along fine with each other.'
>
>Sichverstehen is a phenomenon of being-together, a sharing of
>understanding in such a way that we see eye to eye with an eye of the
>phenomena in view in our shared life-world.
>
>If we understand each other, then what we say to each other points to
>the same circumstances, situation, state of affairs, etc. in such a way
>that the other can say, "Yes, I see things that way, too".
>
>Communicating is always a mutual pointing out and succeeds when the
>pointing lines are aligned and not at cross purposes. Since the
>phenomena rarely show themselves unambiguously, and each of us hold
>differing, even opposing views, the lines of pointing communication are
>at first and for the most part and also in the end higgledy-piggledy.
>
>
>Michael

Thanks Michael.  The word is all I hoped it would be.  As for the end. . . 
What
more could we ask for?

Allen



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