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From: GEVANS613-AT-aol.com
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 13:54:29 EST
Subject: Re: Method



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In a message dated 23/02/2002 18:34:22 GMT Standard Time, crifasi-AT-hotmail.com 
writes:

> Anthony Crifasi wrote:
> What seems to follow is that there is indeed a very specific and 
> foundational methodological principle in Heidegger's phenomenology - that 
> Dasein's essence is NOT an existent (but only existence). I don't see how 
> that is any less of a foundational rule than the opposite - that Dasein's 
> essence is an existent, such as soul, mind, matter, etc. This directly 
> bears 
> on the question of whether there is a methodology of rules to Heidegger's 
> phenomenology. In other words, I do not see how one can claim that 
> Heidegger's phenomenology is free of methodological rules if this is the 
> case. Some philosophers choose the principle that our essence is an 
> existent, while Heidegger chooses the principle that our essence is not. 
> Either way, it seems to me to be a beginning rule of methodology upon which 
> the rest of the analytic depends.
> 
> Anthony Crifasi
> 
> 

This is precisely what I have been saying on this list and others for years - 
that Dasein  ('being there' or 'there being') is just a grammatical (and 
extremely clumsy)  trick in order to make existence/being predicational,  
(which is impossible in logic and linguistics, and in sheer commonsense. 
Anthony's observation helps me  blow  the whole Dasein trick apart,  for 
existence doesn't exist - only the things that exist - exist - in the same 
way that only the dancers dance - not the dancing.

Jud Evans.

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In a message dated 23/02/2002 18:34:22 GMT Standard Time, crifasi-AT-hotmail.com writes:

Anthony Crifasi wrote:
What seems to follow is that there is indeed a very specific and
foundational methodological principle in Heidegger's phenomenology - that
Dasein's essence is NOT an existent (but only existence). I don't see how
that is any less of a foundational rule than the opposite - that Dasein's
essence is an existent, such as soul, mind, matter, etc. This directly bears
on the question of whether there is a methodology of rules to Heidegger's
phenomenology. In other words, I do not see how one can claim that
Heidegger's phenomenology is free of methodological rules if this is the
case. Some philosophers choose the principle that our essence is an
existent, while Heidegger chooses the principle that our essence is not.
Either way, it seems to me to be a beginning rule of methodology upon which
the rest of the analytic depends.

Anthony Crifasi



This is precisely what I have been saying on this list and others for years - that Dasein  ('being there' or 'there being') is just a grammatical (and extremely clumsy)  trick in order to make existence/being predicational,  (which is impossible in logic and linguistics, and in sheer commonsense. Anthony's observation helps me  blow  the whole Dasein trick apart,  for existence doesn't exist - only the things that exist - exist - in the same way that only the dancers dance - not the dancing.

Jud Evans.
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