Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:02:38 EDT
Subject: Re: give me some re-leaf (was Heidegger's Leaf Revisited)



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In a message dated 29/08/2002 05:15:11 GMT Daylight Time, 
pennamacoor-AT-enterprise.net writes:


> Subj:give me some re-leaf (was Heidegger's Leaf Revisited)
> Date:29/08/2002 05:15:11 GMT Daylight Time
> From:    pennamacoor-AT-enterprise.net (michaelP)
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> Jud:
> "...my preoccupation is with EXISTENTENTIAL MODALITY [caps as usual for 
> emphasis not shouting]"
> 
> mP:
> yes, but it's the rest of the text that is always already shouting

Jud:
You should know being the biggest clapper-jaw on the list.
"Give me some re-leaf " you say... this is a discussion list not a massage 
parlour Michael.

> 
> Jud:
> "...and not the much abused cosmic presence,"
> 
> mP:
> and what would an un- or dis- abused "presence" be like? something subtle? 
> no, not in this environment, but...

Jud:
The reference was to Heidegger's "onanological or ontological abuse,"  in 
confusing the leaf's  instantiation with its existential mode of greenness.

> 
> Jud:
> "...or the  even worse juvenile Heideggerian version of  "present at hand," 
>  or "present at handedness"


> 
> mP:
> what other (than Heideggerian), presumably 'grown-up' (non-"juvenile"), 
> versions of "presence-at-hand" has the noble Jud read and thought deeply 
> concerning during his long life?


Jud:
The nutty notion that entities are "in attendance" or even "breathlessly 
holding themselves in readiness" for the convenience of humans.

> 
> Jud:
> "...or what ever other Gothic Lutheran linguistic anal-muscle-strainings 
> the manglewurzel-muncher came up with."
> 
> mP:
> examples, references and elaborations please? because Jud is the only 
> 'thinker' to have recognised these... (gothic?) that I know of, but then, 
> I've only just begun to tread the foothills..

Jud:
B and T is full of them - close your eyes - open it at any page -  and simply 
stab your finger  - then read. a silly neologism.
Yep, we could have a "Daily Nutty Neologism" e-mail Service" I suppose...or 
it could provide the makings of a new parlour game?      
Hmmm... Good for the chuckle-muscles on a cold morning.

> 
> Jud:
> "...I think that the masher from Marburg Heidegger was under the impression 
> that entities queued up like the courtiers at Buckingham Palace, waiting 
> patiently for the time to "pop up" [like Anthony's mountains]  to come into 
> the Queen's "presence" and kiss her ontological arse?"
> 
> mP:
> and where, pray, does the enobling Jud find evidence for this admittedly 
> absurd scenario in "the masher's" oeuvre? Sounds to me that the 
> Juddernaught has been reading very bad and disenchanted juvenilic reviews 
> and blurbs by those who, unlike the noble Jud (presumably), have not 
> actually read the texts reviewed, but have paraphrased other poor 
> reviews......... and so it goes, but forgive me if I'm wrong. Now where did 
> I put that copy of 'Philosophy For Dummies'?

Jud:
For me the only entities that "pop-up" is the bread I put in the toaster, but 
according to certain Heideggerians, mountains, stars, pepperpots and sundry 
other entities deiberately bide their time by awaiting the arrival of a 
suitable transcendentalist [ordinary folk are ignored] to stroll by, and then 
they ...after their long wait...suddenly...purposefully ...pop up. 

It's all good fun of course and beats Tom and Jerry everytime.
Hey, we could create a new show for TV - "The Trannie All Stars," hosting 
straight-faced readings from Heidegger, whilst stage hands raise and lower 
placards on sticks with paintings of mountains and stars etc. There also be a 
"Trannie Amateur Nite," with guest appearances by you and other commedians 
reading your messages from the archives - what do you think? Game for a laugh 
ladies and gentlemen?  Then click that remote and pop-over to the "Purposeful 
Pop-Up Show!"

Happy daze!


Jud Evans.


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