Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 21:32:59 -0500
Subject: RE: Philosophy


At 6:57 PM -0700 8/30/02, Bob Guevara wrote:
>  > >BG:Yes of course.
>>  >Forgive me for not formulating my question as I intended it. It is
>more
>>  >along the lines of my subsequent mail. My interest lies in gaining
>some
>>  >insight into how Heidegger's early personal development [Logic,
>>  >Mathematics, The Sciences] served as a foundation for the
>subordination
>>  >of all of those. Looking from the result of his more mature thinking,
>>  >it's like "of course," how blindingly ignorant traditional
>metaphysics
>>  >has been. But what all is entailed in the arrival at his later
>thinking
>>  >is what interests me most.
>>
>>  Such an arrival is difficult to "manage."  That's the exciting thing
>>  about "Befindlichkeit."  One does and doesn't  have control over how
>>  one finds oneself in-the-world.
>
>
>Yes, of course.
>I do seem to be all over the map. Really not expressing why I'm here.
>
>
>>  Bob, you seem to find yourself-- or at least express your finding
>>  yourself-- in the form of a relatively non-committal questioning.
>>  How do you find that way of finding yourself?
>>
>>  Pardon me for prying.
>>
>>  Allen
>
>
>Thank you for asking Allen,
>
>I'm just about out the door here but my true interest in life has little
>to do with academic appreciation, even though I must say that I love
>this stuff and have grown very fond of many here, including you Allen.
>You have taught me much.
>
>I've had an extraordinary experience in my life that ended up being
>disappointing in certain crucial ways. It could be characterized as a
>Heidegger cult. My experiences bordered on the unbelievable so I do not
>feel free to discuss them here. Many who have had the same experience,
>feel likewise. There is actually a global community of us that is
>finding each other.
>
>There is a clarity and uncanny empowerment that is there in our being in
>community. I'm an engineer by training and by nature it seems. I want to
>explore all I can in terms of getting the nuance of Heidegger's
>thinking. Do I really need to? ...perhaps not. It seems like the
>"getting" comes much easier via other means.
>
>There is also a legal aspect to this. "The Corporation" has legally
>threatened me on numerous occasions for attempting to take what they say
>is their intellectual property. I'd like to be able to defend myself
>adequately and if necessary for I'm not taking anything nor creating a
>business of anykind.
>
>I'm extremely committed to a Project Allen. It just doesn't necessarily
>show here.
>
>Bob


Bob,


How one's personal project "shows itself" --that is how a person 
projects it to others as one conceives of them--is indeed one of the 
fascinations of this list.  Heidegger has a surprisingly personal 
saying in this regard:

By "others" . . . [we mean] those from whom, for the most part, one 
does not distinguish oneself--those among whom on IS too."  ( von 
denen man selbst sich zumeist NICHT  unterscheidet, unter denen man 
auch ist." ( #26)

We are indeed privileged by our existence with others!

Allen


-- 
  Allen Scult					Dept. of Philosophy
HOMEPAGE: " Heidegger on Rhetoric and Hermeneutics":	Drake University
http://www.multimedia2.drake.edu/s/scult/scult.html	Des Moines, Iowa 50311
PHONE: 515 271 2869
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