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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 07:44:44 EST
Subject: Re: Heidegger Schemes  - Hitler's Plans



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In a message dated 15/02/2003 06:03:03 GMT Standard Time, 
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> Subj:Re: Heidegger Schemes - Hitler's Plans
> Date:15/02/2003 06:03:03 GMT Standard Time
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> on 14/2/03 7:48 pm, Paul Murphy at Villanova-AT-btopenworld.com wrote:
> 
> if you detest him so much, why do you bother to read his writings?  There 
> must be a side of Heidegger that you admire?  That gneiss, I'm not so sure, 
> but we could get some of the local pumpkins and put candles in them on 
> Halloweed.  Then fly to the Brochen to sacrifice some virgins, nicht 
> wahr...PM
> 
> Paul, perhaps you've noticed, he doesn't read at all, just responds 
> knee-jerkwise, to the key words...
> 
> regards
> 
> mP 

Jud:
The key word as far as Heidegger is concerned is "Being."  The rest of  his 
risible terminology - the ersatz "dross-words" like "Dasein" and "presencing" 
and the silly "worlding of the world"  type nonsense, all flow from 
Heidegger's attempt to fettle a way around the fact that he never learned to 
understand the function of the BE-word and its conjugates, which of course 
include the word 'being.' 
To discuss Heidegger is to discuss his key words - for Heidegger is one of 
those philosophers whose whole thought rests upon the acceptance (or 
rejection)
of that one key word "Being." The rest of his semi-incoherent ramblings are 
simply extrapolations of notions based on "Being" couched in an Elf-language 
which is designed to obfuscate rather than illuminate. Paul asks why, if I 
detest him so much, do I bother to read his writings? I read him in order  to 
better understand him, and in that  better understanding  make myself more 
able to attack and undermine his malevolence.
I have never made any secret of this fact. 

Why do I do it? Because I hold  his ideas to be evil and dangerous, in that 
they help eternize a transcendentalist view of the world, which if it is not 
confronted and exposed for what it really represents, will eventually lead to 
the destruction of the human race. We can see this in the militant 
Middle-Eastern version of transcendentalism, which like the Shinto-version 
transcendentalist  Japanese suicide flyers of WW 2 are adopting the same 
tactics. 

This is not to say of course that I have a vision of leather-goggled 
Heideggerian transcendentalists flying Tiger Moths into Government Buildings, 
but rather that Heideggerianism, by insinuating itself into our 
establishments of learning, provides an established and lawful intellectual  
conduit for the dissemination of these beliefs in irrationality and 
illogicality in the minds of our youth.

The Heidegger cult,  as its ideas percolate downwards into society,  is one 
source of  ' irrationalist manna from heaven'  which militant (and passive) 
transcendentalism and religiosity parasitically  feeds upon.  Visit any 
violently right-wing, white-supremascist or Neo-Nazi site on the internet and 
guess who they claim as one of their own - in some cases - their Guiding 
Light? And don't come back at me with snide remarks that I spend all my time 
visiting these sites - because I don't  - other than for studying Heidegger's 
continuing influence on modern fascism.  It also taps into the poisonous 
ophidian vein of German (continental) idealism with its reificatory folk 
fantasies, and in doing so (particularly in academia) perpetuates and 
rubber-stamps spiritualistic obscurantism. 

In all the time I have been on this list I have never read in his works, or  
been informed  by anyone else, of one single new idea that Heidegger came up 
with that was in any way different from what had gone on before? Most of his 
regurgitative stuff is just junk sociology or beginner's psychology  dressed 
up in his Heideggerian Elf-Language - "the being of being" and the "worlding 
of the world," or such Hobbit language side-splitters as: "being disclosed as 
it shows itself as a disclosure," and all that Tolkienesque children's-book 
talk. 

THAT's not "philosophy - Don't make me laugh!
Or as John McEnroe famously said: "You can't be serious!"

Cheers,

Jud.

<A HREF="http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/ ">http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/</A> 
Jud Evans - ANALYTICAL INDICANT THEORY.
<A HREF="http://uncouplingthecopula.freewebspace.com">http://uncouplingthecopula.freewebspace.com</A>

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In a message dated 15/02/2003 06:03:03 GMT Standard Time, michael-AT-sandwich-de-sign.co.uk writes:


Subj:Re: Heidegger Schemes - Hitler's Plans
Date:15/02/2003 06:03:03 GMT Standard Time
From:    michael-AT-sandwich-de-sign.co.uk (michaelP)
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on 14/2/03 7:48 pm, Paul Murphy at Villanova-AT-btopenworld.com wrote:

if you detest him so much, why do you bother to read his writings?  There must be a side of Heidegger that you admire?  That gneiss, I'm not so sure, but we could get some of the local pumpkins and put candles in them on Halloweed.  Then fly to the Brochen to sacrifice some virgins, nicht wahr...PM

Paul, perhaps you've noticed, he doesn't read at all, just responds knee-jerkwise, to the key words...

regards

mP


Jud:
The key word as far as Heidegger is concerned is "Being."  The rest of  his risible terminology - the ersatz "dross-words" like "Dasein" and "presencing" and the silly "worlding of the world"  type nonsense, all flow from Heidegger's attempt to fettle a way around the fact that he never learned to understand the function of the BE-word and its conjugates, which of course include the word 'being.'
To discuss Heidegger is to discuss his key words - for Heidegger is one=20of those philosophers whose whole thought rests upon the acceptance (or rejection)
of that one key word "Being." The rest of his semi-incoherent ramblings are simply extrapolations of notions based on "Being" couched in an Elf-language which is designed to obfuscate rather than illuminate. Paul asks why, if I
detest him so much, do I bother to read his writings? I read him in order  to better understand him, and in that  better understanding  make myself more able to attack and undermine his malevolence.
I have never made any secret of this fact.

Why do I do it? Because I hold  his ideas to be evil and dangerous, in that they help eternize a transcendentalist view of the world, which if=20it is not confronted and exposed for what it really represents, will eventually lead to the destruction of the human race. We can see this in the militant Middle-Eastern version of transcendentalism, which like the Shinto-version transcendentalist  Japanese suicide flyers of WW 2 are adopting the same tactics.

This is not to say of course that I have a vision of leather-goggled Heideggerian transcendentalists flying Tiger Moths into Government Buildings, but rather that Heideggerianism, by insinuating itself into our establishments of learning, provides an established and lawful intellectual  conduit for the dissemination of these beliefs in irrationality and illogicality in the minds of our youth.

The Heidegger cult,  as its ideas percolate downwards into society,  is one source of  ' irrationalist manna from heaven'  which militant (and passive) transcendentalism and religiosity parasitically  feeds upon.  Visit any violently right-wing, white-supremascist or Neo-Nazi site on the internet and guess who they claim as one of their own - in some cases - their Guiding Light? And don't come back at me with snide remarks that I spend all my time visiting these sites - because I don't  - other than for studying Heidegger's continuing influence on modern fascism.  It also taps into the poisonous ophidian vein of German (continental) idealism with its reificatory folk fantasies, and in doing so (particularly in academia) perpetuates and rubber-stamps spiritualistic obscurantism.

In all the time I have been on this list I have never read in his works, or  been informed  by anyone else, of one single new idea=20that Heidegger came up with that was in any way different from what had gone on before? Most of his regurgitative stuff is just junk sociology or beginner's psychology  dressed up in his Heideggerian Elf-Language - "the=20being of being" and the "worlding of the world," or such Hobbit language side-splitters as: "being disclosed as it shows itself as a disclosure," and all that Tolkienesque children's-book talk.

THAT's not "philosophy - Don't make me laugh!
Or as John McEnroe famously said: "You can't be serious!"

Cheers,

Jud.

http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/
Jud Evans - ANALYTICAL INDICANT THEORY.
http://uncouplingthecopula.freewebspace.com
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