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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:18:09 +0100
From: Rene de Bakker <rene.de.bakker-AT-uba.uva.nl>
Subject: Re: colonisation


At 13:33 19-2-03 +0100, Paul Murphy wrote:
>can you recommend some books by Burckhardt?  I stood outside his former
>residence, it's just at the top of the lane as you go out of Basel
>Jugendherberge, beside the fountain.  I have some pics, if you like I'll
>send them to you?  PM

That's very nice Paul. I was in this Jugendherberg when I was 15,
I remember the fountain too, I still can see it, yes and the rising
lane, I didn't know then about Burckhardt. Hiked with a friend
to Basel,  which belongs to the 'Heimat' - there is a nice symphony
by Honegger: deliciae basilienses - from there the Rhine 
begins its way to us here, I daily bike along it. 
About the Donau and the Rhine there is much to be said,
writes Hoelderlin, and last summer I had some eureka's over there.
It's a long time ago now that I considered Nietzsche's stay in Basel
a coincidence....  
It's Hebel's town too: The Wiesenthal is just around the corner.

Leibniz calls Holland in that piece i gave recently, a (linguistic)
colony, a plant of Germany. That is a history, a home, an origin,
that is no longer living now (but still 'is' in that strange way Heidegger
says, things gone still 'are'), and Burckhardt was the first to realize
this and gave it on to Nietzsche.  "Wohl dem der jetzt noch Heimat hat!"

I only read the 2 first chapters of Burckhardt's Griechische Kulturgeschichte,
but believe I can recommend it fully. 

thanks VERY much, Paul, the pics yes please.

Rene






>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rene de Bakker" <rene.de.bakker-AT-uba.uva.nl>
>To: <heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
>Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:25 PM
>Subject: Re: colonisation
>
>
>> Karl-Wilhelm Welwei, expert on the polis, in his last
>> little book: Greece, 2000-500 BC, maintains
>> that the traditional understanding of Greek colonisation
>> (from 800) as economy-driven enterprises, cannot
>> explain the phenomenon.
>>
>> It is rather a riddle, like the 'colonisation' of
>> Greece itself, after the decline of the Mycenean age.
>> Instead of the traditional waves of invading peoples (or races)
>> from the North, now it is generally accepted*, that relatively small
>> groups spread over the country, which organised themselves
>> in a way that was to lead to the later polis. Clearly the binding
>> centre of  these early groups was the cult of a specific god
>> at a specific place. The use of the term 'religion' is totally
>> meaningless here, because we don't know nothing.
>> Heidegger: The Greeks didn't have religion, they were and are the
>> looked-at by the gods. (Die Angeblickten)
>>
>>
>> Burckhardt wasn't already interested in the who
>> exactly where and how and when of the Greek puzzle.
>> Whoever the Greeks were before, they didn't want it
>> no more, they all wanted to be Greeks.
>> (This goes still, and extremely, for Alexander.
>> It is ignificant that precisely in Bactria the tension between
>> Greek democracy and Asian despoty exploded)
>>
>> Instead of overloading them with OUR imperialism,
>> religion, atheism, globalism, we'd better ask with Hoelderlin
>> where OUR Delos and Olympia might be.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *on the undeniable basis of the spreading of different
>>  dialects
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>> drs. Rene de Bakker
>> Universiteitsbibliotheek Amsterdam
>> Afdeling Catalogisering
>> tel. 020-5252368
>>
>>
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drs. Rene de Bakker
Universiteitsbibliotheek Amsterdam
Afdeling Catalogisering 
tel. 020-5252368              


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