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From: "Paul Murphy" <Villanova-AT-btopenworld.com>
Subject: Re: neither/nor (was: Righteous War? Or bluff?)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:43:03 +0100


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Re: neither/nor (was: Righteous War? Or bluff?)where are you getting this from?  Having lived in Greece I know that any typical Greek would look at you sideways for coming out with this.  Techne means art, the rest is psychobabble.  Get a ticket to Athens if you don't believe me....PM
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  From: michaelP
  To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
  Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:58 AM
  Subject: Re: neither/nor (was: Righteous War? Or bluff?)


  on 19/2/03 11:01 pm, Paul Murphy at Villanova-AT-btopenworld.com wrote:

  > techne means art in Greek, not technology, although this may be a derivation
  > of techne

  For better or worser, Paul, techne for the Greeks means something more like: bringing forth and showing what does not bring forth and show itself by itself; such techne is thus differentiated from physis which is the realm of that which emerges and shows itself by itself. Thus techne is a realm that includes those of 'art', 'handicraft', the 'technical' and eventually 'technology'. The sense of 'making' involved here is not exclusively that of human making/creating; in the same way, physis is not exclusively the realm of what we now call 'nature' and the 'natural'. These days the flattened casting of beings is such that these two realms are now opposed, now combined, the sense of emergence (whether by itself or not) now dimmed (and damned), as we can see in oxymoronic formulations like 'virtual reality' and 'reality TV'. And, even more urgent to take on board now, is Heidegger's hint that the essence (whatness, quiddity) of technology is nothing technological...

  regards

  michaelP

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Re: neither/nor (was: Righteous War? Or bluff?)
where are you getting this from?  Having lived in Greece I know that any typical Greek would look at you sideways for coming out with this.  Techne means art, the rest is psychobabble.  Get a ticket to Athens if you don't believe me....PM
----- Original Message -----
From: michaelP
To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: neither/nor (was: Righteous War? Or bluff?)

on 19/2/03 11:01 pm, Paul Murphy at Villanova-AT-btopenworld.com wrote:

> techne means art in Greek, not technology, although this may be a derivation
> of techne

For better or worser, Paul, techne for the Greeks means something more like: bringing forth and showing what does not bring forth and show itself by itself; such techne is thus differentiated from physis which is the realm of that which emerges and shows itself by itself. Thus techne is a realm that includes those of 'art', 'handicraft', the 'technical' and eventually 'technology'. The sense of 'making' involved here is not exclusively that of human making/creating; in the same way, physis is not exclusively the realm of what we now call 'nature' and the 'natural'. These days the flattened casting of beings is such that these two realms are now opposed, now combined, the sense of emergence (whether by itself or not) now dimmed (and damned), as we can see in oxymoronic formulations like 'virtual reality' and 'reality TV'. And, even more urgent to take on board now, is Heidegger's hint that the essence (whatness, quiddity) of technology is nothing technological...

regards

michaelP
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