Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:20:29 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Calypso?= <calypso_1001_2000-AT-yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: Murphy's Law Dear oh dear, the lads or rather Lad is at it again. Paul responds to a typical example of Jud's qidnuncery*** with a plea for "some good places to study Heidegger", obviously a dissing of Jud's longish piece, something, surely we should be allowed to do. One could regard it as simply saying in so many words that the piece is irrelevant to those wanting to further their interest and knowledge of the works of Heidegger. Not everyone would agree that this is the case (e.g., Michael P), but it surely is OK for this to be said or implied on a discussion list like this one. Jud responds with an appalling attack on Paul (as if Paul had uttered the 'sin' of ad hominem) and Heidegger (the man, not the thinker since Jud has never really attacked the thinking, Jud having never shown the slightest sign of even a mild understanding of that thinking), including all the usual incitements to hatred. This proleptic (as below, eg) pre-emptive strike is surely atrocious. "I would be very interested, (though I doubt if many others on this list would be equally enthusiastically turned on) to hear how you eventually rationalised what the jerk actually DID in real life, (His real day to day life, shagging students, telling lies to his wife, ill-treating and stabbing in the back former mentors, ringing up the Gestapo to report young kids and old colleagues and attending Nazi Party meetings in his fancy dress unform of leather shorts and braces topped by a shiny Nazi badge. Plus of course the little matter of telling lies at his criminal trial saying that he didn't work for the party when the newspapers are full of pics of him surrounded by Nazi square-headed thugs. And there's the small matter of the mish-mash of borrowings and the blatant twistings of the meanings of sundry Greek writers' words that he actually wrote down on paper, in spite of his admitted ignorance of the BE-Word in relation to his excruciatingly embarrassing transcendentalist beliefs?" Interestingly Jud's piece on reality without human representation remind s me of Berkley's 'proof' of the existence of the Christian God. That it (God) is the omnipresent subject for whom the world is just as it is independently of all human (and presumably, animal) perspectives and points of view (ie, Jud's TWTWI). Looked at this way Jud's position is remakably close to those of many religious mystics. What an irony. cheers Calypso *** Quidnunc was the name given to an idlely curious chatterer in another Murphy's work, Arthur Murphy's farce 'The Upholsterer or What News?' (1757) ===="man is something that must be overcome" [N] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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