Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:47:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Jason Stuart <jts0803odon-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Topic


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>I think you should give examples of the forms you mention.   Greek and Roman verse is quantitative verse;  English attempts include some Spenser's, Bridge's, and Auden's work.  Middle English work, such as Beowulf, can be considered quantitative.  Again, duration is not a distinctive factor in English feet. Middle English verse can also be seen as accentual (stress provides the base, with varying numbers of unstressed syllables per line).  Yeats often wrote in this line. Syllabic meter (a set number of syllables per line, with no regard to stress) was employed by Moore, Auden, and some Restoration-era writers.   Accent and syllable count combine to form the bulk of English poetry, however, and even those that attempt experimentation in syllabic or quantitative verse generally fall into some sort of iambic line.  I really shouldn't have to provide an example; open an anthology to any page and point.        >Without grounding those theories your discourse sounds very abstract.  Well, ok.   >Also, not just how the new  forms changed things, but why?  If you say, well they just did, or this was a radical new conception so there, I think you have to admit that this was just a new convention, a new fashion and changed nothing on any other level.  Have you taken an introductory course in English lit?  There's not enough server space to explain this.  Please note I never said "Well, they just did."  What do you mean by "things" anyway?   >If so, I think there's no problem with writing alliterative verse since it is clearly just a choice of convention which is only really a matter of taste.   Well, yeah, sort of.  Taste matters.  But it's not just taste, it's also a rhetorical matter--if you write Paradise Lost as a limerick, you're sending a different message than the one Milton intended.  So it's not just a matter of picking and choosing as you please.   >In that case one should write rap because that is the convention, not sonnets or blank >verse.   "The" convention? >outline the conventions of rap? To what end? JS


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