From: "Paul Murphy" <Villanova-AT-btopenworld.com> Subject: Re: Topic Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 20:59:42 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Your taking it all too seriously, go and take some laxatives. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Stuart To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 8:27 PM Subject: Re: Topic I'll answer this one here, but I think you should consider taking this off-list if you really want to know whether or not Homer and I are "fascists." >for instance, Homer never wrote a treatise on prosody, although we suppose that he >used certain measures, a regular, quantitative syllable count, a regular series of beats >and so on. But this is a reconstruction of the author's intentions. Academics surmise all >this. Was Homer not a verbal arts fascist who set down rules and conventions which >were not to be violated, otherwise they would not be considered poetry? I don't think Homer would know what a "fascist" was. You're acting as if all the theory that we react to was written in the last ten years as a way of writing people off--I suspect it's because something happened to you, or someone critiqued your work too harshly--and that's simply not the case. >That's what I think of convention, a lot of rules, a great deal of hollow, baseless, >substanceless, formalism which gave rise to a great deal of confusion. Well, you're certainly confused. But that's your prerogative, to dismiss or accept what you will. Doesn't mean you're right, though. >Do you consider yourself to be a kind of fascist, implying that the average person is >some kind of moronic slave to mass cultural pulp, or that he/she doesn't realise that the >kind of poetry I mentioned is just irrelevant to the reality that 'the great unwashed' >encounter - the factory, ... Get over yourself. I'm all for high-minded skepticism, but what you're doing is called obstinate self-righteousness. >We have a lot of material on 19th Century music hall stars, have you heard of any of them >- Marie Lloyd? for instance? PM No, you got me there, crabby. OK, that's enough of that, JS ----- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more
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--- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu -------- Original Message -----From: Jason StuartSent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 8:27 PMSubject: Re: TopicI'll answer this one here, but I think you should consider taking this off-list if you really want to know whether or not Homer and I are "fascists.">for instance, Homer never wrote a treatise on prosody, although we suppose that he >used certain measures, a regular, quantitative syllable count, a regular series of beats >and so on. But this is a reconstruction of the author's intentions. Academics surmise all >this. Was Homer not a verbal arts fascist who set down rules and conventions which >were not to be violated, otherwise they would not be considered poetry?I don't think Homer would know what a "fascist" was. You're acting as if all the theory that we react to was written in the last ten years as a way of writing people off--I suspect it's because something happened to you, or someone critiqued your work too harshly--and that's simply not the case.>That's what I think of convention, a lot of rules, a great deal of hollow, baseless, >substanceless, formalism which gave rise to a great deal of confusion.Well, you're certainly confused. But that's your prerogative, to dismiss or accept what you will. Doesn't mean you're right, though.>Do you consider yourself to be a kind of fascist, implying that the average person is >some kind of moronic slave to mass cultural pulp, or that he/she doesn't realise that the >kind of poetry I mentioned is just irrelevant to the reality that 'the great unwashed' >encounter - the factory, ...Get over yourself. I'm all for high-minded skepticism, but what you're doing is called obstinate self-righteousness.>We have a lot of material on 19th Century music hall stars, have you heard of any of them >- Marie Lloyd? for instance? PMNo, you got me there, crabby.OK, that's enough of that,
JS
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