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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:11:20 +0100
From: artefact-AT-t-online.de (Michael Eldred)
Subject: Re: WtP and justice


Cologne 28-Feb-2003

Anthony Crifasi schrieb Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:18:47 +0000:

> >That France and Germany, tight together now,
> >are ready to accept big political and economical losses,
> >on account of their 'betrayal', is in my view a positive
> >signal.
>
> And is Tony Blair's willingness to accept total political suicide also a
> positive signal on your part? Did you know that Winston Churchill was jeered
> and mocked when he went to Parliament during the 30s warning that Hitler was
> violating the treaty of Versailles, and that Chamberlain was cheered and
> praised when he came back with a piece of paper on which was Hitler's
> promise not to make further incursions? And finally, did you know that the
> percentage of French oil that is imported from Iraq is much greater than the
> percentage of US oil that is imported from Iraq, and that Iraq has
> explicitly warned France, in an Iraq daily run by Hussein's son Uday, that
> if France supports military action on Iraq, The French oil companies Elf and
> Total might as well close their offices in Bagdhad?
>
> >Except for some leaders, now everybody here is
> >fed up with this non-extant, but all-pervading 'possible
> >war'.
> >It's time for another 'command'. WtP has nothing to do
> >with the present will to war or with aSSociations, but with
> >the ability of a type of man to place oneself under a
> >command,
> >that surpasses specific interests. Nietzsche's 'justice' is
> >involved.
> >
> >"Immense self-reflection: awakening to oneself not as
> >individual, but as humanity."    (WtP, no. 585, quoted by
> >Heidegger in: Die Frage nach dem Ding, p. 32)
> >
> >We can start buying products made by Germans and the French
> >instead of products made by US companies. For example, buy a
> >BMW or Citroen instead of a Ford or GM. That should help.
> >
> >I am left wondering how a state can make an ultimatum
> >regarding military aggression when in fact there is progress
> >towards disarmament.
>
> FOR THE FOURTH TIME, HAVE YOU READ RESOLUTION 1441? John, once is an honest
> mistake, twice is a possible mistake, THREE times is conspicuous, but FOUR
> times is downright willed blindnes. And this from someone TALKING about WtP!
> Paragraph 4 of resolution 1441 specifically gives the criteria for a
> material breach, and it EXPLICITLY says that Iraq must FULLY COOPERATE, not
> "progress." And the inspectors themselves have already explicitly said that
> they are not receiving full cooperation, especially regarding interviews
> with scientists.
>
> Would you like me to start a count for the number of times you are going to
> post the above without having read resolution 1441?
>
> Anthony Crifasi

And the worst of it is that not only John Foster can't be bothered reading
Resolution 1441, but that the leaders of France, Russia and China -- to name
just the major powers -- now propose policies for dealing with Saddam as if the
Security Council had never passed Resolution 1441 unanimously (including even
Syria). Along with Germany and many other minor powers, the said major powers
claim in public that Resolution 1441 "is working". What is a Security Council
worth that does not lend any resolution to its Resolutions but instead freely
reinterprets them to suit current political ends and public moods?

In the case of la Grande Nation it seems that showing itself off as who it is on
the world stage, as a power whose word counts, is an end in itself.

This week several 'big names' in German letters including Guenther Grass, Martin
Walser, Peter Sloterdijk published a statement calling for no war against Saddam
Hussein.

By contrast, Wolf Biermann (brought up in a committed Communist family, and one
who suffered greatly as dissident under the East German regime to the point of
being forcefully kicked out of his Communist home country) published an article
in Der Spiegel this week accusing the Germans of being "hurrah pacifists".

Gyoergy Konrad, well-known Hungarian author and now President of the Academy of
the Arts in Berlin, published an article in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung
yesterday on "Why I am for a war against Iraq". He is another one who knows from
his own lived experience what it means to live under a repressive totalitarian
regime.

Michael
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>
>
> >Certainly there is no immanent threat
> >from Iraq.
> >
> >I like the quote. It suggest that humanity, our universal
> >nature, is one of a 'rational animal', a positive
> >evolutionary adaptation,  rather than a specifically
> >irrational animal. Please do not confuse irrational with the
> >non-rational.
> >
> >chao
> >
> >john foster
> >
> >We -our type- are not ready for that.
> >
> >Strauss mentions a possible project, as he found it in the
> >magazin "Scheidewege". It would take 300 million years.
> >It consists in splitting and carrying off layers of the sun
> >by
> >means of magnetohydrodynamic mega machines.
> >They store the helium and transport it somewhere else.
> >Innumerable earth surfaces could be created.
> >The project could be started in about 150 years.
> >
> >rene
> >




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