File spoon-archives/heidegger.archive/heidegger_2003/heidegger.0302, message 334


From: "Anthony Crifasi" <crifasi-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: WtP and justice
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:57:39 +0000


Rene de Bakker wrote:

>Two categories should not be confounded: France is a nation-state,
>and has the power or unpower that belongs to a nation-state, and there
>is Nietzsche, the highest cristallization point of power, that is capable
>of judging how, in powerful decadent times, France, like Germany,
>England and Russia, are going to play a suicidal game, because they
>cannot admit that their values have become illusory.
>Reflective of Nietzsche's spirit is his edict to Bismarck to lay down all
>weapons of destruction. An act of generosity, not crusades.

Many of Nietzsche's major criticisms of Bismark's Germany are not only 
present, but magnified in Nazi Germany, so the idea that France's reaction 
even remotely reflected Nietzsche's spirit is clearly ... well, let's just 
say you need to read some more literature on European history. ;) The France 
that Nietzsche admired was Napoleon's France. Can you picture Napoleon 
laying down his arms before Hitler?

Anthony Crifasi

>The goal of the US know, through a war on terror, cannot be reached,
>because it enhances terror. When violence is necessary, then there
>should be another dimension, wherein the necessity of GIVING something
>is included. To all the inhabitants of the middle east a perspective should
>be offered, to Israel, Palestine, Iraq, Quwait, otherwise this dangerous
>situation, for you and for others, will not stop. Whatever your historian
>may say, Israel was put throught the throat of the Arab world after the
>holocaust, and this is still and increasingly the fire under extremism,
>whatever the quarrels of historians.
>
>
> >
> >>Maybe we can only agree from within our different jeweilige
> >>perspectives, upon Strauss' word, that Hitler is the most vital
> >>dead ever.
> >>
> >>You're forgetting that Nietzsche was always already after war as
> >>his true element, he cold not bear peace. In this respect Saddam
> >>is much more like Stalin, he works like a dog to survive- Hitler was
> >>lazy -, he is there now since 1968, so he is persistent. That's why
> >>he was chosen by the US as a stable factor.
> >>
> >>I see, that -just like Jud-, you have nor read the necessary literature
> >>to be able to talk about European history.
> >
> >If it's an historian you want, it's an historian I'll give you:
>
>Wrong period. I meant the pre-ww2 period, wherein Heidegger, joins
>a nationalist and socialist party. All that happened after that, had not
>happened yet.
>
>Mr. Will's is an extremely contaminated and contagious power.
>It was this kind of moralism (shitty will to power) that Nietsche
>was aiming at.
>
>But even your boss has said that God has turned away from the world,
>so we'll have to live with these kind of wills.


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