Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:07:36 +0100
From: Rene de Bakker <rene.de.bakker-AT-uba.uva.nl>
Subject: Re: the o/o gulf


Anthony,

>>No that is not my point. You left out the beginning of my post::
>
>Did I? I don't remember there being anything else in your reply besides what 
>I copied above. If there was something else, I apologize.

It was *your* text, that I reacted to:

>> >The ontic can provide a "direction" to the ontological,
>> >but the ontological can be neither peaceful and non-conflictual, nor
>> >warlike, precisely because BOTH of these are ways of being-in-the-world.
>>
>>One just cannot speak of 'the ontological' this way, without getting into
>>contradictions. And falling prey to Jud's razor blade: it does not exist.
>
>Well ontically, it doesn't exist. Just as Heidegger says that ontically, 
>Dasein's essence is no-thing, which is why Heidegger's ontology leaves 
>scientists and analytical philosophers pulling their hair out - they can't 
>get beyond the ontic. 

Heidegger's ontic is not their ontic. For instance Dasein is ontic and
ontological.
BT, German p. 12: "The ontical distinction of Dasein consists therein,
that it IS ontologically." Which does not mean, he continues, that Dasein
is building ontologies. Is ontology taken as explicit theoretical questioning,
then 'being ontologically' means 'being pre-ontologically'. And that means
not simply 'being-ontically', but 'being in the mode of an understanding of
Being."

Anyway, ontical and (pre-) ontological are so opaquely interweaved, that
their distinction is helpful only as a very provisional device to make out 
at a specific point, what the talk is about. Because at first Being must be
understood in its questionability, a traditionally metaphysical distinction
cannot decide anything. And when you think you don't have to go that far,
that's true, because this metaphysics is in you, as in everyone, insofar
Dasein.

regards

rene


 
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