From: "Anthony Crifasi" <crifasi-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: ontical history
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 03:41:06 +0000


Rene de Bakker wrote:

>Now simple history: the comparison with Germany and Hitler
>
>America got a blow 9/11, Germany in 1918.
>Although, as the first one received at home,
>it was quite a blow, it was one on the nose
>but of course did not bring them down.
>Germany, in 1918, was deadly injured, all
>its organs damaged. It were above all the French that wanted to hold 
>Germany in
>that lethal state.

Yes and for damn good reason after Germany practically started WWI for 
reasons that had nothing to do with the assasination of Franz Ferdinand and 
had everything to do with weakening France, and ultimately Russia, by having 
Austro-Hungary as an ally. Germany was so obviously instigating war, by 
pressuring Austro-Hungary to make their ultimatum to Serbia impossibly 
demanding (definitely not the 12 years that Iraq has had!), and by 
consistently undermining all attempts by Great Britain at mediation with 
Serbia. Germany unabashedly WANTED war. Luckily, something happened that 
Germany did not expect: Great Britain did not remain neutral and came to the 
aid of France, resulting in a stalemate until the US finally joined them. As 
in almost every war, there's blame to spread around, but the preponderance 
definitely lands on Germany for this one.

>America now considers Iraq and others as dangerous, and launches preemptive 
>strikes.
>
>Germany, if one takes a look at the map,
>lies in between France and Russia, both
>opponents in ww1. 1917: revolution in
>Russia, helped by the Germans.
>Millions of citizens, peasants, aristocracy
>murdered. With today's standards Germany
>had a right to attack Russia at any time.
>With today's standards Germany had the right
>to attack anybody anywhere any time.

If you are referring to the massive crimes against humanity that were 
occurring in Russia following the 1917 revolution, then I fully agree. That 
dwarfed what Milosevic did by millions. Problem was, so did the crimes 
against humanity that were occurring in Germany under the Nazis. So by 
today's standards, both Russia AND Germany at the time should have gotten 
the same treatment that Milosevic received in the 90s.

Anthony Crifasi


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