File spoon-archives/heidegger.archive/heidegger_2003/heidegger.0304, message 14


From: "Anthony Crifasi" <crifasi-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Being & Time 2
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 16:08:55 +0000


Jud wrote:

>Anthony:
>If, as you argued concerning the sentence "The leaf is green," neither the
>subject ("The leaf") nor the predicate ("is green") EXPRESSES that the leaf
>actually exists, because the very same words may well be from a work of
>fiction, then since this may also be true of ANY sentence whatsoever, it
>FOLLOWS (whether or not you wish to accept this is another matter) that
>absolutely no sentence can express that anything actually exists.
>
>But I VERY SPECIFICALLY made it clear that I was addressing sentential
>existentialisation or existential nominalisation NOT ACTUAL
>existentialisation of the referent. words I made it ABSOLUTELY CLEAR BY
>ADDING THAT if we say: "The leaf... is green" we are introducing the leaf 
>as
>viable subject of communication, and EXTANTALISING IT SENTENTIALLY FOR THE
>PURPOSE OF MAKING A STATEMENT ABOUT THE REAL OR IMAGINED ENTITY WHICH MAY 
>OR
>MAY NOT EXIST IN THE REAL WORLD AS A REFERENT OF THE WORD "LEAF."

Yes, but from the argument that you gave - i.e., the fact that the sentence 
may be from a work of fiction, it FOLLOWS (whether or not you WISH to accept 
this logically necessary conclusion as your position is another matter) that 
no sentence can express what you call the actual existentialisation of 
anything whatsoever, and is limited to merely what you call sentential 
existentialisation, because absolutely ANY sentence may also be a quote from 
a work of fiction. Therefore the fact that you neither did nor are saying 
that no sentence can express that anything actually exists is irrelevant to 
the fact that this is the logical implication of what you did say concerning 
the sentence, The leaf is green.

>And just for the record, you again changed my words - though I see now that
>you have reverted back again to my actual words which were:
>
>The leaf is green may well be a quote from a work of fiction.
>
>And rehashed them as:
>
>ALL sentences can be found in a work of fiction, and therefore contain
>absolutely no expression of fictional existence over real existence.

The latter was the conclusion which I am logically drawing from your former 
argument concerning "The leaf is green," so your characterization of this is 
as "rehash," instead of a logical extrapolation, is incorrect.

Anthony Crifasi





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