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From: GEVANS613-AT-aol.com
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 08:32:45 EDT
Subject: Re: z-ing went the str-ings of my art



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> Subj:z-ing went the str-ings of my art
> Date:26/04/2003 12:43:13 GMT Daylight Time
> From:    michael-AT-sandwich-de-sign.co.uk (michaelP)
> 
> 
> briefly now...
> 
> Gardening:
> In gardening taking place we can bring into place the garden and the
> gardeners. 
> 
> Jud:
> "Gardening" [used here as a gerund] doesn't "take place"  because it 
> doesn't exist. Only entities that exist can participate in events that 
> happen or take place. Gardeners may exist and indulge in the activity of 
> gardening, like dancers may exist and indulge in the activity of dancing.  
> 

Human beings, who whilst they are occupied in the activity of  the 
cultivation of plants are deemed with the alternative significata: 
"gardeners," their tools and the plants of the garden, the soil etc., occupy 
space and interact.  This entitic  interaction is described using the 
abstract noun "gardening." But entitic interaction doesn't exist either - 
only the interactants exist.

The rest is poetical evocations of feeling, which is good to read as I sit 
beneath my sycamore tree -  but it is  not philosophy, for "gardening" and 
"walking" and "being" are not, and cannot be -  existentially  present - only 
the gardeners and the walkers and the be-ers can be existentially present and 
the  material existential activities of their embodied brain-embrained body 
be observed. 
I'm afraid that the naive misunderstandings of  Heideggerian 
Walk-in-the-Black-Forrest  folk-grammar, and the rest of the Greek influenced 
traditional  folk psychology which transcendentalists so much depend upon   
are just plain inadequate for a cogent explanation of human behaviour, and 
are  insufficient to  describe  the aetiology of  existential behaviour and 
the modalic complexity of  worldly phenomena. Heideggerians will continue to 
flounder and flail around until they pick up a grammar book and turn to the 
page on gerunds, gerundials/gerundives.  That is where Dasein really abides.

indoor regardings,

Jud.

Gardening brings into play the sky, the air, the earth, the

> watery stuffs, the vegetation that sprouts, grows and dies, the gardeners
> who labour on, en-joy, tend, and attend to the garden, who live in
> nurturings, who die and are buried back to the earth they love. When
> gardening has taken place, is taking place or shall be taking place
> (preparing), gardeners can be seen as gardeners and not just humans located
> (whether present or absent) within or without the precincts of a space known
> as a garden; gardens can be seen as gardens and not just patches of
> more-or-less-bounded patches of land with or without actual vegetation or
> furnishings or insects and birds and mammals, watery stuffs etc.
> 
> When gardening is pre-cognised as gardening, gardens and  gardeners and
> garden-stuffs are re-cognised too as what they are.
> 
> Walking:
> Similarly, when walking is present, the walk comes into play as the walked
> and not just some more-or-less-connected stretch of land; when walking is
> pre-cognised, walkers come into their own as walkers walking the walk, and
> not just humans or animals arranged in some proximal fashion moving in
> happenstance fashion along some more-or-less-connected stretch of land.
> Walking collects the sky, the earth, the walked walk, and the walkers,
> bringing each into its own [see Richard Long's long path-taking].
> 
> 
> ...and if such can be said concerning gardening and walking, what of being?
> It could be said that re-cognition of beings (existents) takes place because
> be-ing is pre-cognised. Z-ing!
> 
> outdooring regardings
> 
> michaelP 
> 
> 
> 
Cheers,

Jud.

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Jud Evans - ANALYTICAL INDICANT THEORY.
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Subj:z-ing went the str-ings of my art
Date:26/04/2003 12:43:13 GMT Daylight Time
From:    michael-AT-sandwich-de-sign.co.uk (michaelP)


briefly now...

Gardening:
In gardening taking place we can bring into place the garden and the
gardeners.

Jud:
"Gardening" [used here as a gerund] doesn't "take place"  because it doesn't exist. Only entities that exist can participate in events that happen or take place. Gardeners may exist and indulge in the activity of gardening, like dancers may exist and indulge in the activity of dancing.  But the abstractions of gardening and dancing don't exist per se.


Human beings, who whilst they are occupied in the activity of  the=20cultivation of plants are deemed with the alternative significata: "gardeners," their tools and the plants of the garden, the soil etc., occupy space and interact.  This entitic  interaction is described using the abstract noun "gardening." But entitic interaction doesn't exist either - only the interactants exist.

The rest is poetical evocations of feeling, which is good to read as I sit beneath my sycamore tree -  but it is  not philosophy, for "gardening" and "walking" and "being" are not, and cannot be -  existentially  present - only the gardeners and the walkers and the be-ers=20can be existentially present and the  material existential activities of their embodied brain-embrained body be observed.
I'm afraid that the naive misunderstandings of  Heideggerian Walk-in-the-Black-Forrest  folk-grammar, and the rest of the Greek influenced traditional  folk psychology which transcendentalists so much depend upon   are just plain inadequate for a cogent explanation of human behaviour, and are  insufficient to  describe  the aetiology of  existential behaviour and the modalic complexity of  worldly phenomena. Heideggerians will continue to flounder and flail around until they pick up a grammar book and turn to the page on gerunds, gerundials/gerundives.  That is where Dasein really abides.

indoor regardings,

Jud.

Gardening brings into play the sky, the air, the earth, the

watery stuffs, the vegetation that sprouts, grows and dies, the gardeners
who labour on, en-joy, tend, and attend to the garden, who live in
nurturings, who die and are buried back to the earth they love. When
gardening has taken place, is taking place or shall be taking place
(preparing), gardeners can be seen as gardeners and not just humans located
(whether present or absent) within or without the precincts of a space known
as a garden; gardens can be seen as gardens and not just patches of
more-or-less-bounded patches of land with or without actual vegetation or
furnishings or insects and birds and mammals, watery stuffs etc.

When gardening is pre-cognised as gardening, gardens and  gardeners and
garden-stuffs are re-cognised too as what they are.

Walking:
Similarly, when walking is present, the walk comes into play as the walked
and not just some more-or-less-connected stretch of land; when walking is
pre-cognised, walkers come into their own as walkers walking the walk, and
not just humans or animals arranged in some proximal fashion moving in
happenstance fashion along some more-or-less-connected stretch of land.
Walking collects the sky, the earth, the walked walk, and the walkers,
bringing each into its own [see Richard Long's long path-taking].


...and if such can be said concerning gardening and walking, what of being?
It could be said that re-cognition of beings (existents) takes place because
be-ing is pre-cognised. Z-ing!

outdooring regardings

michaelP



Cheers,

Jud.

http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/
Jud Evans - ANALYTICAL INDICANT THEORY.
http://uncouplingthecopula.freewebspace.com
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