Subject: RE: more faggots more nihilism
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:37:36 +0200
From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker-AT-uva.nl>




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Van: Anthony Crifasi [mailto:crifasi-AT-hotmail.com]
Verzonden: maandag 28 april 2003 17:10
Aan: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
Onderwerp: Re: more faggots more nihilism


Rene de Bakker wrote:

>Writing history in Iraq?
>
>You'll mean: destroying history, theirs and our own,
>the Sumerian origin of the Abrahamic religion.
>And the library: the continuing story of book autodafe's.
>
>American archaeologists, who btw had warned the American
>govt, that this would happen, now go on receiving their
>wages from a govt. that abandoned their most important
>collections. The only place they did protect was the
>ministery of oil. Blood for oil, spirit for oil.

As I told Jan earlier, Rene... libraries, archaeological collections, 
compared to THIS: http://www.rense.com/general37/jailed.htm

It seems all your masks are finally starting to come off, eh Rene? Do you 
remember when we first started this whole discussion at the beginning of 
February? You made an "observation" at the time concerning US criticism of a 
German minister's comparison between Bush and Hitler, and when I replied to 
that, you said (Feb. 4):

"My point is not to choose sides, but the pattern that is in almost all of 
them."

and:

"So hey, please watch what i'm saying: not more than that all action 
legitimizes itself by constructing something fundamental bad on the opposite 
side: this goes for inflicting war on Iraq, and it goes for that German 
minister."

So you weren't taking sides, you were just observing a pattern: that Bush 
was really doing the same thing that the German minister did (i.e., 
legitimizing himself "by constructing something fundamental bad on the 
opposite side"). I knew, of course, that this kind of response was just an 
anti-war argument masked under a seemingly neutral observation of a 
"pattern" on both sides, since no one who supported the war would ever 
respond in that way.

pardon? should i?


 But now, you're more honest about "choosing sides":

>The only place they did protect was the
>ministery of oil. Blood for oil, spirit for oil.

We could have saved weeks if you had just said that in the beginning.



Don't take it too ontically, Anthony, i don't care whether Bush or
another, and i don't care whether America or another. As i said,
plunder (nachstellen) is ontological. We are talking  -more important,
because we can change nothing- of a nihilating nothing and the
consequences of its staying out, yes? When one is only after safety
and money, then the nothing cannot be experienced, although it is
constantly pressing, as you rightly said. It's this mechanism, that
we've now only started to discuss, that pushes everything and 
everyone now in an ever higher frenzy, so keep your head cool, so
that we understand better. We're all Americans, i said that once too. 

regards

rene



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