File spoon-archives/heidegger.archive/heidegger_2003/heidegger.0305, message 115


Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 14:22:44 -0700
From: Kenneth Johnson <beeso-AT-pop.charter.net>
Subject: Re: reason and intuition


>Kenneth Johnson wrote:
>
>> >And yet when he rejected the foundation of the new physics - the
>> >uncertainty principle.
>> >
>> >Anthony Crifasi
>>
>>are you implying that a "freedom" from our 'inferior' rational mind exists
>>and some preferred mysticized superstitious mindset, a fear reactive
>>mindset that has produced over 375.7 billion all different and all mutually
>>exclusive one true godchantlings, is superior????????
>>
>>despite your obvious drool over the prospect, there is no certainty that
>>the uncertainty principle holds, there is only that appearance at this
>>not-yet-at-the-end time - - maybe string theory or something following on
>>from that, who yet knows????? certainly not Heisenburg.
>
>No I wasn't talking about any connection between the uncertainty principle
>of some mysticized superstitious mindset or God or anything like that. The
>traditional rational mindset that Einstein couldn't free himself from was
>that one definite cause has one and only one definite effect. Quantum
>uncertainty challenged that, and Einstein couldn't handle it ("God does not
>play dice."). Sorta blows apart the illusion that Einstein really embodied
>the whole rational mind being the servant of intuition thing.
>
>Anthony Crifasi


well in the context you refer, einstein used god only rhetorically, and i
doubt it was something he couldn't "handle" but more rather was the notion
that say the moon _only_ exists when someone looks at it (the observer as
essential part of the observed), that is not something one can really get
their rational mind wrapped around and this essentially ensues from the
fact that no one could prove this, tho as i recall the heisenbergs work was
pretty persuasive to other wise. but without anyway to prove it???

or i think the key phrase you used was: "Einstein was the one who could not
free himself from the rational mindset", that this phrasing partakes more
of some either/or dramatics than of what was probably warranted - - and
then of what could be the dialectical counterpoing to "the rational
mindset", dunno

regards,
kenneth






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