Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 17:49:10 -0400
From: Rick Parkany <rparkany-AT-borg.com>
Subject: Re: God inside me



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Jud:    Neitzsche was sickened by reading the yellow journalism of
his time; I swoon in the face of current events and *push-pull*
comodification of *current events*, a swell, and in the fractal
dimensional expansion of information technologies and pubic press,
so much moreso accordingly.

Now, this decade, the feeding frenzy is Priests, last decade it was
teachers & headmasters, last century it was wife abuse and
philandering that was given a pass, this century in the arab world,
many women are still suffering the effect of what you call
Medievalism, that was/is the *elephant in the living room*, who
knows what's going on under the sheets next deacade oR if
muff-diving will be declared a criminal offense, as they are all
over the USofA to THIS DATE:    ref: *The Sodomy Laws*?

Fortunately, we have records that are historic. Much of what you
evidence is public panic and the effects of reporting/info access.
Witch Hunts and Marvin Harris' account of them are MOST interesting
phenomenae--check THEM out:    society's ultimate *urban legend*:
The Witch!

Much of it is changing mores, unfortunately much of it is the human
condition, and I mean by that:    Primate Behaviors--watch 'em
sometime!

For example:    Anyone looking at the works of Lewis Carol and
considering especially his photographic rotogravures would be
convinced he were a child-molester of little girls, perhaps he was!
and what of Plato's *lovely young men*? gimmeAbreak!--check Lewis
Carrol's  WEB presence and hope the thought police don't confiscate
your Hard Drive before you purge your cookies, Jud!

In fact, it is the world-weary east that tires of the human being,
check out *Nirvana* sometime when you sicken of Emmanuel (God With
Us!)--it is only after  Heidegger that we can begin to appreciate
the human for what it is:  and get beyond the mandrillus ex
machina!    ;-} rap.
<REF>:
Mandrillus sphinx :
http://1kai.dokkyomed.ac.jp/mammal/en/species/mandrillus_sphinx.html

GEVANS613-AT-aol.com wrote:

> I
>
>> And foidaMore (invoking Bugs Bunny)...
>>
>> ...*commanding obedience among the flocks* is more a
>> characterisitic of
>> typically heirarchic and paternalistic human cultural systems
>> than it is
>> endemic to the religious. And who sez they *behave themselves*?
>> (*behave*? this IS a philosophic discussion list, or am I
>> wrong?)
>
> Jud:
> You believe that the media coverage of handcuffed priests and
> empty churches are "urban legends?"
>
>  rparkany
> his
>
>> whole line of reasoning is based, at best, upon urban (or rather
>> global)
>> legends, having just so much fact involved as to whet the
>> appetite of the
>> more biggotred among us.
>> http://www.ulrc.com.au/HTML/Frequently_Asked_Questions.ASP
>
> Jud:
> Here is the search result for "priests" on your Urban Legends
> link:
> You Searched For:
> [Image] Search Term(s): priests
> [Image] Search Archive: Urban Legends
> [Image] Search Operation: All
> No matches found!
>
> Are you claiming the that imams and rabbis are NOT behaving
> themselves then?
>
> rparkany:
>
>> Research has shown that pederasty, child abuse, and/or petty
>> theft is no
>> more pronounced among religious cults than it is in the general
>> population...
>>
>> Jud:
>> The people being arrested are not cult members, they are
>> Christian priests - the cult leaders.
>
>
>
>
> rparkany:
> there are as many deviates *per capita* this list as there
>
>> are looking back at you from the pulpit. There are just as many
>> institutional enablers in the secular world as there are in the
>> cults.
>
>
>
>
> Jud:
> How do you know this?
>
> rparkany:
>
>>
>> Heidegger was often faulted by received wisdom for having been
>> dabling in
>> cultural  anthroplogy rather than philosophy in his time.
>
> Jud:
> To my knowledge only Husserl accused him of this "error?"  Who
> else made this criticism?
> Are you suggesting that Husserl was: a one man "received wisdom."
> Or were there others?
> Either way, who were the recipients of this received wisdom?
>
> rparkany:
> I'd say a few
>
>> of you this list need a visit to Marvin Harris' bibliographic
>> reference
>> set or enable your better analytics of the ontical by enrolling
>> in
>> Anthro101...or keep to the point and don't embarrass yourselves
>> your
>> *knowledgeNetwork* slips and other dirty underwear are
>> showing--straighten up!    ;-} rap.
>
>
>
>
> Jud:
> First you conclude, [with the aid of your anthropo-statistical
> crystal ball]  that some of us on this list are sexual deviates,
> then you suggest
> we start studying anthropology. You're sounding a bit prescriptive
> and patriarchal - almost as if commanding obedience is some kind
> of turn on for you?
> I thought that the discussion touched on the "authentic," and
> Anthony brought in Levinas on the subject concerning lies and
> lying.
> Does not the "authentic" apply to priests too - particularly as
> their "behaviour" has almost wrecked the Christian church, or do
> you want the word "p******" to be expunged and treated like the
> word "N****" , and not mentioned in our polite cyber-company? ;-)
> What do you think Heidegger as an ex-scholar  who studied under
> Jesuit priests, and later [after the war] claimed he was a
> "theologian" would  have to say in relation to "authenticity," now
> that the main church of western christendom has been brought to
> its knees by priestly misbehaviour?
> Are you maintaining that such a dramatic turn of events, which has
> led to  the mighty church of Rome, which kept alive the glory of
> the Greek genius throughout the dark ages, being reduced to this
> embarrassment is not a fit subject of discussion.
> It is particularly interesting when it is mirrored by the
> resurgence of the rival religion of Islam?  You think that this is
> an anthropological question?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jud.

--
"Dein Wachstum sei feste und lache vor Lust!
Deines Herzens Trefflichkeit
Hat dir selbst das Feld bereit',
Auf dem du bluehen musst." JS Bach: Bauern Kantata
Richard A. Parkany: SUNY-AT-Albany
Prometheus Educational Services
http://www.borg.com/~rparkany/
Upper Hudson & Mohawk Valleys; New York State, USA


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