From: GEVANS613-AT-aol.com Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 17:59:27 EDT Subject: Re: The Problem of NOT Being Zarathustra --part1_a1.3802a67c.2be4443f_boundary In a message dated 02/05/2003 22:08:58 GMT Daylight Time, michael-AT-sandwich-de-sign.co.uk writes: > Subj:Re: The Problem of NOT Being Zarathustra > Date:02/05/2003 22:08:58 GMT Daylight Time > From: michael-AT-sandwich-de-sign.co.uk (michaelP) > Sender: owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu">heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu</A> > To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > > > > > Allen asked in connection with the gift of thinking: > > > How do you give it to someone who doesn't get it, > > indeed who can't get it until they think the overcoming which what > > you are giving gives them? > > > > > Allen (trying to find his way back to that path marked only by goat turds > > which leads back UP the mountain)) > > Allen, not sure it's appropriate, but this rings a bell with my > unsuccessful attempt at employment of the given (by Jud) metaphor of the > appearance of the monolith in '2001' that announced the inception of the > human (from and through the ape): whether the ape-being had to be human in > order to receive the gift as the gift it is, and take on the > 'responsibility' it demands; perhaps some are forever 'apes' in this sense, > even as they are human apes (who speak humanly about being apes and nothing > else). Myself, I feel something for radical discontinuity, and, that a good > teacher can and perhaps must, bring on the conditions for such -- anamnesis > -- (not just in the student but in themselves), invite the monolith and > dance to the extravagant Straussian Blue Danube Waltz till the Hegelian > cows come home with the Star Child floating back to earth, and back up that > turd-ridden mountain over and over again (on each occasion that crops up); > the mountain is never wholly conquered, the attempt to scale and the > humility to admit failure and suffer that peculiar discomfort, is merely > the business of being philosophically human. > > Keep climbing > > michaelP > > Jud: > Nicely written, I loved the:"till the Hegelian cows come home with the Star > Child floating back to earth," but it doesn't address Allen's problem of > not understanding the problem of people who understand, but reject what he > believes, which he believes to be their problem in not understanding, > rather than his problem and/or rather the problem of that in which he > believes in - being understandable but unbelievable. Cheers, Jud. <A HREF="http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/ ">http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/</A> Jud Evans - ANALYTICAL INDICANT THEORY. <A HREF="http://uncouplingthecopula.freewebspace.com">http://uncouplingthecopula.freewebspace.com</A> --part1_a1.3802a67c.2be4443f_boundary
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