From: GEVANS613-AT-aol.com Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:43:17 EDT Subject: Re: devastating page on Husserl? In a message dated 18/07/2003 17:44:20 GMT Daylight Time, crifasi-AT-hotmail.com writes: > Subj:RE: devastating page on Husserl? > Date:18/07/2003 17:44:20 GMT Daylight Time > From: crifasi-AT-hotmail.com (Anthony Crifasi) > Sender: owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu">heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu</A> > To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > > > > > Look, it's not as difficult as everyone is making this by going into all > these historical and personal issues between Heidegger and Husserl. > > 1. What is the clue that Heidegger explicitly says that he is going to use > to explicate the phenomena in Being and Time? The phenomena as they are most > familiar to us. > > > > 3. How does Husserl say that we must approach the phenomena in order to > explicate them? Precisely in the detached mode of science and NOT insofar as > we are absorbed and interested in them. > > 4. What precisely does Husserl say assures this rigorously scientific > phenomenological attitude? The phenomenological reduction. > > 5. What does Heidegger repeatedly criticizes about Husserl's philosophy in > the letter that Rene posted? The phenomenological reduction and the emphasis > Husserl places on the scientific approach to the phenomena. Go back to step > 1. > > Now, were there personal issues between Heidegger and Husserl? I'm sure > there were, but the above is all you need to see WHY Heidegger > philosophically criticized Husserl the way he did in the letter that Rene > posted. > > Anthony Crifasi > > >From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker-AT-uva.nl> > >Reply-To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > >To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > >Subject: RE: devastating page on Husserl? > >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:12:46 +0200 > > > > > > > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >Van: Bakker, R.B.M. de > >Verzonden: donderdag 17 juli 2003 16:34 > >Aan: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > >Onderwerp: RE: devastating page on Husserl? > > > > > >If i remember well, Heidegger edited the Husserl > >lectures on phenomenology of internal time- > >consciousness in 1928, more or less against > >Husserl's will. Also Heidegger's ongoing predilection > >for the Logical Investigations was not shared by Husserl. > > > >The 'devastating page' stands in a wider perspective > >of an anewed looking for helpers, after BT, when Heidegger > >felt all alone. (He explains this to Stenzel. Compare, for > >other classical philologists the excellent series by Frank Edler) > >The writing of the Kant-book has the same origin. But it has > >really nothing to do with neo-Kantianism. (Cohen's "Theory of > >experience" is btw recommended by Heidegger as one of the best > >books to read re Kant. Recently appeared also the Heidegger-Rickert > >(his neo-Kantian teacher) correspondence, 1912-1933, ed. by Alfred Denker) > >And at last: the 1 or 2 page(s) in that historical piece My way into > >phenomenology with a note on Rickert) > > > > > > The note on Rickert is not in My way but in GA15 Seminars, > > a 1951 seminar in Zuerich. > > In fact, it's an answer to a student's question for a Rickert > > distinction re concept formation. Heidegger replies, that > > he has grown up with this distinction. "I would not like to > > touch the name of my honored teacher. But this distinction > > is really primitiv. This thinking remains far behind Schelling, > > Hegel or Leibniz. And nonetheless - for the period 1900-1910, > > for us it was something releasing in a time of experimental > > psychology aiming to be THE scientific philosophy. In those > > days, the school of value-philosophy was an essential and > > decisive clue to what in the great tradition was known as > > philosophy." > > > > As in the case of Husserl and others, a well-balanced judgment > > from the beginning days of ordinary nihilism. > > > > rdb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: <owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu> > Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) > by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILINYC24-1c63f1823b01d9; > Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:44:20 -0400 > Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.virginia.edu [128.143.2.9]) by > rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC34-1c63f1823b01d9; Fri, 18 > Jul 2003 12:43:28 -0400 > Received: from lists.village.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa13396; > 18 Jul 2003 12:42 EDT > Received: (from domo-AT-localhost) > by lists.village.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3p2/8.9.0) id MAA21886 > for heidegger-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:41:44 -0400 (EDT) > X-Authentication-Warning: lists.village.Virginia.EDU: domo set sender to > owner-heidegger-AT-localhost using -f > Received: from hotmail.com (law9-f117.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.117]) > by lists.village.Virginia.EDU (8.9.3p2/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA21881 > for <heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:41:39 > -0400 (EDT) > Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; > Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:41:09 -0700 > Received: from 12.83.0.197 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; > Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:41:08 GMT > X-Originating-IP: [12.83.0.197] > X-Originating-Email: [crifasi-AT-hotmail.com] > From: Anthony Crifasi <crifasi-AT-hotmail.com> > To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > Subject: RE: devastating page on Husserl? > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:41:08 +0000 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Message-ID: <Law9-F117YQZw1bTrHF00022370-AT-hotmail.com> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2003 16:41:09.0251 (UTC) > FILETIME=[64060D30:01C34D4B] > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > Sender: owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu > X-AOL-IP: 128.143.2.9 > > > Cheers, Jud. <A HREF="http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/ ">http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/</A> Jud Evans - ANALYTICAL INDICANT THEORY. <A HREF="http://uncouplingthecopula.freewebspace.com">http://uncouplingthecopula.freewebspace.com</A> --- StripMime Warning -- MIME attachments removed --- This message may have contained attachments which were removed. 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