Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:27:43 -0500 From: allen scult <allen.scult-AT-drake.edu> Subject: RE: God and Philosophy >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: michaelP [mailto:michael-AT-sandwich-de-sign.co.uk] >Verzonden: woensdag 20 augustus 2003 17:40 >Aan: heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU >Onderwerp: Re: God and Philosophy > > >Allen said recently: > >> I think it is important in this conversation for someone like Rene to >> put someone like Jud in his place by suggesting to him (generously) >> that metaphysics cannot be so easily overcome. > >Yes, wasn't it Nietzsche who said the Same about decadence, that those who >oppose it are its worst adherents and continuers? Nietzsche's proud claim to decadence, while at the same time "being" its counterpart is a perfect model for the positioning of the philosopher for what Husserl characterizes as the "higher dignity" of critical reflection. Heidegger said similarly of Plato that he took on the "sophist in himself" as the only possible basis for critical reflection on the relationship between philosophy and rhetoric. He was both sophist and philosopher. The dialogue form, as Michael suggests, gives an authentic rendering of each possibility in terms of its other with the outcome remaining in doubt. All the true thinker has to go on are these contrary claims about himself, which he throws into the air, risking not only embarrassment if he misses one or the other (or both), but also the danger of being beaned on the head, by what he still insists is "merely" a claim. Of course, claims can hurt, even injure, as surely as a "thing" which has the solidity of actually being a thing. Regards, Allen (who was once circling in the outfield under a fly ball as everyone watched--circling, circling . . .) > > > Yes Michael, > > "Nothing helps. First one has to be Wagnerite." > > and even more clear (i see now): > > "Admitted that I'm a decadent, I'm also its counterpart." > > > > And in overtime Heidegger's warning of "the leaving out of the staying out" > "das Auslassen des Ausbleibens" > > > > rene > > > > > >Michael still trying to not take the side of not taking a side... > > > > > > > --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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