From: "John Foster" <borealis-AT-mercuryspeed.com> Subject: Re: Godt, Wahrheit und Amerika Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 10:02:42 -0700 Yes, but there are some fundamental myths which propel the whole - imho Such as the myth of humans having 'technological superiority' over nature and even other humans (past humans, neolithic humans, et cetera). Remember that humans put 'into place' (stellen) over-all;(Ge) as in 'put in place' an essence where something essential was there in an original 'succession'. What with hurrican Isabel within striking distance of Georgia and South Carolina, and even Cheasapeake Bay, it may do some horrific damage to all those stick frame houses just as hurrican Andrew did when it destroyed 132,000 stick frame homes made from 'old growth forests of the Pacific Northwest including British Columbia and Alaska. So if we were really interested in the 'principle of reason' more or less as a fundamental principle we would not be simply discussing the nature and phenomenon associate with godly revealing, we would be 'knowing' and 'acting' in a fully convinced manner about who really is Master in this Universe. Of course Rene, and others are correct, Man thinks not 'holistically' nor fundamentally because thinking is more than isoloating a 'reason' or teasing out a reason for this or that phenomenon, but understanding all that occurs. See if we are really interested in 'technology' and reducing or eliminating it's 'ungodly character' we would search for a technology which restores the essential character of humanity to what is considered to the be 'image' of it's self (quoting Genesis) which is nothing else but God as seen in her creation/creature. So there you have it...What is currently 'ungodly' and the image of the dead god is our own technological paradiqm which destroys, minimizes creation. Thus we need more 'philosophy in concrete' (Philco Tech GMBH) which reduces and or eliminates our need to kill more trees and renew forests globally. Simply the salmon are more important than the profits of timber companies and the high wages of foresters. Foresters rarely use simple magnetic compasses so why are we still slapping up stick frame houses made out of urea formaldehyde, paper and vynl? Why not houses made to last or portable with aerated concrete (99% silica)? Of course I detract momentarilly from the issue generally regarding technology....but there is a relatively high probability that hurrican Isabel will destroy many thousands of homes the stick frame capital of the whole world (America and Canada). Hurrican Andrew caused the destruction of 132,000 homes made from old growth Douglas-fir, western red cedar, and western hemlock. Some of the ancient forests have not experienced a significant disturbance for over 8000 years, but now are vanished for ever. You see the well minded foresters have replaced the cedar and hemlock with more useful spruce and Douglas-fir which now is being attacked by 'Swiss needle cast' and 'Pissodes strobi' weevils everywhere.....or root rot (Armillariella spp., the worlds' largest organism). too much chao john foster ----- Original Message ----- From: "michaelP" <michael-AT-sandwich-de-sign.co.uk> To: <heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Godt, Wahrheit und Amerika > on 14/9/03 11:38 am, Michael Eldred at artefact-AT-t-online.de wrote: > > > Belief in a myth means to live in a certain > > mythically cast historical world. You can only encounter God in the streets of > > Calcutta if you have faith and you can only share this encounter with the > > community of the faithful. > > Yes, Michael, and this applies too (surely) to those whose mythic casting > yields to 'seeing' electrons (etc), or worse, 'matter' everywhere, or even > 'material things' or individual unique (etc) 'spatio-temporal entities' > only, etc. And, often this mythical casting is itself cast as precisely > de-mythologising or de-mystification; an interesting if not arresting irony > whose practitioners will not (can not) admit the irony involved. Of course, > (as Thurber humourously demonstrated in his inability to see the cells that > were supposedly obviously present under the microscope lens) this casting is > grounded in faith too (in the belief of non-belief, in the commitment to > non-commitment, in the extra-ordinary un-obvious claims made for the > 'obvious', etc). > > To be grounded in the abgrund, in nothing, now, that's a different kettle of > onions: what should such a abgrund cast when it casts? > > regards > > michaelP > > > > --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- > --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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