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From: "John Foster" <borealis-AT-mercuryspeed.com>
Subject: Re: Godt, Wahrheit und Amerika
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 10:02:42 -0700


Yes, but there are some fundamental myths which propel the whole - imho

Such as the myth of humans having 'technological superiority' over nature
and even other humans (past humans, neolithic humans, et cetera).

Remember that humans put 'into place' (stellen) over-all;(Ge) as in 'put in
place' an essence where something essential was there in an original
'succession'.

What with hurrican Isabel within striking distance of Georgia and South
Carolina, and even Cheasapeake Bay, it may do some horrific damage to all
those stick frame houses just as hurrican Andrew did when it destroyed
132,000 stick frame homes made from 'old growth forests of the Pacific
Northwest including British Columbia and Alaska.

So if we were really interested in the 'principle of reason' more or less as
a fundamental principle we would not be simply discussing the nature and
phenomenon associate with godly revealing, we would be 'knowing' and
'acting' in a fully convinced manner about who really is Master in this
Universe.

Of course Rene, and others are correct, Man thinks not 'holistically' nor
fundamentally because thinking is more than isoloating a 'reason' or teasing
out a reason for this or that phenomenon, but understanding all that occurs.

See if we are really interested in 'technology' and reducing or eliminating
it's 'ungodly character' we would search for a technology which restores the
essential character of humanity to what is considered to the be 'image' of
it's self (quoting Genesis) which is nothing else but God as seen in her
creation/creature. So there you have it...What is currently 'ungodly' and
the image of the dead god is our own technological paradiqm which destroys,
minimizes creation.

Thus we need more 'philosophy in concrete' (Philco Tech GMBH) which reduces
and or eliminates our need to kill more trees and renew forests globally.
Simply the salmon are more important than the profits of timber companies
and the high wages of foresters. Foresters rarely use simple magnetic
compasses so why are we still slapping up stick frame houses made out of
urea formaldehyde, paper and vynl?

Why not houses made to last or portable with aerated concrete (99% silica)?

Of course I detract momentarilly from the issue generally regarding
technology....but there is a relatively high probability that hurrican
Isabel will destroy many thousands of homes the stick frame capital of the
whole world (America and Canada). Hurrican Andrew caused the destruction of
132,000 homes made from old growth Douglas-fir, western red cedar, and
western hemlock. Some of the ancient forests have not experienced a
significant disturbance for over 8000 years, but now are vanished for ever.
You see the well minded foresters have replaced the cedar and hemlock with
more useful spruce and Douglas-fir which now is being attacked by 'Swiss
needle cast' and 'Pissodes strobi' weevils everywhere.....or root rot
(Armillariella spp., the worlds' largest organism).

too much

chao

john foster




----- Original Message -----
From: "michaelP" <michael-AT-sandwich-de-sign.co.uk>
To: <heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 4:53 AM
Subject: Re: Godt, Wahrheit und Amerika


> on 14/9/03 11:38 am, Michael Eldred at artefact-AT-t-online.de wrote:
>
> > Belief in a myth means to live in a certain
> > mythically cast historical world. You can only encounter God in the
streets of
> > Calcutta if you have faith and you can only share this encounter with
the
> > community of the faithful.
>
> Yes, Michael, and this applies too (surely) to those whose mythic casting
> yields to 'seeing' electrons (etc), or worse, 'matter' everywhere, or even
> 'material things' or individual unique (etc) 'spatio-temporal entities'
> only, etc. And, often this mythical casting is itself cast as precisely
> de-mythologising or de-mystification; an interesting if not arresting
irony
> whose practitioners will not (can not) admit the irony involved. Of
course,
> (as Thurber humourously demonstrated in his inability to see the cells
that
> were supposedly obviously present under the microscope lens) this casting
is
> grounded in faith too (in the belief of non-belief, in the commitment to
> non-commitment, in the extra-ordinary un-obvious claims made for the
> 'obvious', etc).
>
> To be grounded in the abgrund, in nothing, now, that's a different kettle
of
> onions: what should such a abgrund cast when it casts?
>
> regards
>
> michaelP
>
>
>
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