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From: "John Foster" <borealis-AT-mercuryspeed.com>
Subject: Re: Godt, Wahrheit und Amerika
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:44:30 -0700


Yep! deeply tragic response of courage might I say. The Korean took a knife
and used that to kill himself. , but needlessly. In my response to Jud and
Jud Lands published material I exposed the authentic concern, dread,
regarding the use of subsidies in sugar. Actually Heidegger was much ahead
of his time.

Where the subsidies also hurt is that they force the developing world to
sell below national market prices which the farmer in the developed world
receives. The larger the subsidy the more perverse the effect on the farmer
in the developed world.

john






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From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker-AT-uva.nl>
To: <heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: Godt, Wahrheit und Amerika


>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: John Foster [mailto:borealis-AT-mercuryspeed.com]
> Verzonden: maandag 15 september 2003 20:34
> Aan: heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
> Onderwerp: Re: Godt, Wahrheit und Amerika
>
>
>   John, a prel. reaction, bit busy here, liked your last post,
>   that is your writing. Really, a Korean suicide?
>
> >
> >     Hi John,
> >
> >    Indeed, why not turn away from this con-destructionism, like
> >    the 3rd world from USA and EU now in Cancun. Something for the
> >    UN too, just walking away from it, looks like the best thing to do.
> >
> >    The combination of self-interest and the nervous need for security
> >    will only stimulate the killing and misery of others (and employment
> >    for Theresa's).
>
> Hi
>
> I read Dominique LaPierre's "City of Joy" was impressed with the tone
> overall. I thought how wonderful, all those lepers living together, the
> limbs deteriorating, and all that Joy they felt (I am not being sarcastic
> here) not devulging an exegesis on thanatology
>
>   'Thanatology'. There are indeed worse things than death.
>
>  as a whole but merely
> reporting how lepers were able to experience orgasm much more easily in
> their self-admitted conubiums. Now we have powerful antibiotics there are
> still children in Honduras and in Central America who are affected by
> leprosy. I have to disagree with the observation that all people dying are
> experiencing pain and suffering which would negate their desire to live. I
> think this really depends on the age of the person, their station in life,
> et cetera. But I detract momentarily from the topic you refer to.
>
>    Not really. The abendlaendische conversation is between "the younger"
>    and "the older". At one point the older says: i cannot follow your
>    youthful impetus. The younger (H) replies: our notions of youth and old
>    age are spoiled by biology. Maybe youth is never old enough to be
>    young.
>
>    That we should get healthier, older (forever young) and all that, is a
>    consequence of an aversion, that averts itself from any dis-covery of
>    the mechanism at work. The aversion is at bottom aversion to time and
>    its going by. It's led by fear, and fear attracts wild animals, that
>    don't wrestle according to Greek-Roman rules.
>
>    During the time that this aversion reached its apex, the US were the
>    leader of the world. It's about time that the character of this
simultaneity
>    is thought over. As long as this is not done, the US, and so us, will
be,
>    despite all display of power, the simple victim of the mechanism at
work.
>
>    The politicians, glued to enormous financial powers, that are resolute
>    not to let off power,
>
>        etc., sofar for now. i'm sure you know the way, regards
>     rene
>
>
>
>
>
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