File spoon-archives/heidegger.archive/heidegger_2003/heidegger.0309, message 295


From: "Henk van Tuijl" <hvtuijl-AT-xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: Denial
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:34:41 +0200



From: "michaelP" <michael-AT-sandwich-de-sign.co.uk>
To: <heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: Denial


> on 22/9/03 5:52 pm, Henk van Tuijl at hvtuijl-AT-xs4all.nl wrote:
>
> > Oppose what? Heidegger apologetics? Since no one denies any longer that
> > Heidegger was a Nazi, there is nothing to oppose.
>
> Henk, should we not be asking here on this list of all lists what "was"
> means?

> It's not a matter of opposition but of position, of shifting
> shuffling edging into the fit; what does the statement *say* (as opposed
[!]
> to what it speaks)?

> A whole notion of history or histories lies haunting
> this seemingly obvious statement of so-called fact; ...

> ... i.e., shouldn't we on
> this list be discussing what statements of fact *are*, the be-ing of
> facticity, how facts *are*?
> Not a matter of apologogetics [!] or denials > or
> accusations or supportings (etc), but what? thinking? perhaps...


Michael,

IIRC Clinton once did ask what "is" meant - to avoid a straightforward
answer to the question if he "was sexually involved" with Lewinsky.
Clinton's question was not philosophical one, IMHO.

"Heidegger was a Nazi" tells us what Heidegger became after his return to
Freiburg and how he did understand himself from that moment on. He could
have become a member of the Bekennende Kirche or could have remained an
outsider but that was not his understanding of himself.

Henk




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