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From: villanova-AT-btopenworld.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:13:53 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Karl May


Hitler's favourite novelist was Karl May.  Has anyone read his books - Old Shatterhand, any of the others?  I saw a complete works for sale in Freiburg but didn't buy it.  The Germans say 'we are taught Goethe, but we read Karl May.'

>  from:    John Foster <borealis-AT-mercuryspeed.com>
>  date:    Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:50:19
>  to:      heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
>  subject: Re: Fuhrer Prinzip, was a Proven link between Being and Nazism
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Crifasi" <crifasi-AT-hotmail.com>
> To: <heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 7:31 AM
> Subject: Proven link between Being and Nazism
> 
> 
> > Ok Jud, the above subject line will stand out well enough, so what I would
> > like you to do once and for all under this subject heading is this:
> >
> > Demonstrate that Heidegger's Nazism was a necessary consequence of his
> > philosophy of Being.
> >
> > I asked you to do this on the Yahoogroups Heidegger-dialognet list, and
> have
> > yet to receive such a demonstration. Please don't simply refer to other
> > books or authors, since I could equally refer to other people who argue
> the
> > opposite, and I assume that when you say that there is such a necessary
> > philosophical connection, that you yourself actually know what it is, and
> > can therefore explain it. And if you have indeed read Being and Time many
> > times over, as you say, then you should have no problem providing such a
> > demonstration.
> >
> > So please, proceed.
> >
> > Anthony Crifasi
> 
> Good one there Anthony. Better yet ask him to prove Neitzsche's connection
> to Nazism! Let him sift throught the various Triumps of the Will and find in
> Rosenberg what is obvious. The dialectics of Slave and Master Race are
> simply too obvious, but, however, Neitzsche had no such connection since he
> passed away more or less in 1888.
> 
> Better yet ask Jud who was Hitlers' favourite novelist?
> 
> The answer is the Iranian author of Ardistan and Djistan. There is no hint
> of Neo Nazi or fascist sentiments in the Iranian author (or am I wrong?)
> Hitler does not appear to enjoy Goethe (dictators seldom do).
> 
> And is not the most 'proto-fascist' document in existence Machiavelli's "The
> Prince"?
> 
> Maybe we should censor the writings of Neitzsche and Machiavelli? No?
> Neitzsche admired Nepoleon writing once:
> 
> "We ought to desire the anarchical collapse of the whole of our civilization
> if such a reward [the emergence of Napoleon as emperor] were to be the
> result."
> 
> "I test the power of a will according to the amount of resistance it can
> offer and the amount of pain and torture it can endure and know how to turn
> it to its advantage."
> 
> Neitzsche  affirmed the values of:
> 
> "...pride, exuberant spirit, splendid animalism, the instinct of war and of
> conquest, the deification of passion, revenge, anger, voluptuousness,
> adventure, knowledge."
> 
> "Thou goest to women. Do not forget the whip..." [Thus Spake Zarathustra]
> 
> sounds enormously the Fuhrerprinzip of the NSDAP
> 
> 
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