Subject: RE: A Taster
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:31:52 +0200
From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker-AT-uva.nl>


 

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	Van: Michael Eldred [mailto:artefact-AT-t-online.de] 
	Verzonden: zo 5-10-2003 16:42 
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	Cologne 05-Oct-2003
	
	"Bakker, R.B.M. de" schrieb Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:06:26 +0200:
	
	>                      Precisely! Here, from another ankle, we arrive at the metaphysics that
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	>                      is still virulent (incorporated in the terminology) in early Heidegger.
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	>                     The discussions with Ariosto, Gary Moore, and, more intensively,
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	>                    Anthony Crifasi, helped me to clear, what gegenwendige, ambigious
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	>                    moves, forward, backward, are at play, till in 1929 he finds a lasting  trail:
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	>                    Grundstimmung  and the nothing. Here the relation to metaphysics, which
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	>                    has its own  versions of an explanation of the Nothing, namely that lastly
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	>                    it is  nothing (the null-nothing) is opened.    It is THIS nothing that now,
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	>                     in its all-pervading power can be, is to be met, now and here,  in Stimmung.
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	>                    All-envading nothingness, sinking away of everything,  and but
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	>                    so: opening beings-as-as-whole.
	
	Is that your big discovery? Cf. my critique of Heidegger in 'Seinkoennen und Gestimmtheit'  in: prima philosophia Bd. 3 Heft 1 Januar 1990: pp.52-66. I submitted this paper beforehand to von
	Herrmann, but he turned it down for publication. To name von Herrmann as the high priest of "High Church Heideggerianism" (Thomas Sheehan) is to be extremely polite. I'm at least a generation ahead
	of the likes of you.

	

	  We're going definitely another way. Could you please show me one discussion with Doc Jud, let's say 3 exchanges each,

	  wherein your manliness remains standing, I say: you're not capable of it. An Oidipous reply is ridiculous. 

	  Don't just shout things, but bespeak them with  *everybody*.   Don't merely say, do. You haven't even begun, mate.

	 

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	>                   In short  (but don't rush):  He manages to change his position, to
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	>                   get into a relation with something one is already in. Thus he speaks
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	>                   of  metaphysics as an event in the dephts of Dasein. (GA29/30)
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	>                    And now Nietzsche has an entrance. And that means the whole
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	>                   of metaphysics, of which Nietzsche is the apparent completer.
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	>
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	>                   -----     But what does this mean politically? That he wanted to
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	>                   take a share and a leading, 'geistliche' leadership, but the polis should
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	>                   be a work of its own, as the work of art. We can hardly name that
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	>                   political philosophy. Sorry, i think there's no political philosophy really.
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	>                   Just preparation and disciplination for something serious. Manly too yes,
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	>                   not the faggotism of today.  Nietzsche saw this well: the eternal-feminin
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	>                   pulls us ... down." Yesterday evening i saw on BBC a bitch cum laude,
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	>                   cacking unbearably, being applauded by friendly distinguished gentlemen.
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	>                   Eerie.  I go by train and hear what people say. The bitches scream their
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	>                   private  lives into the coupe's. To Arabs we're really shit. A woman  said:
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	>                   if you  give money to a westerling, you can spit on it as much as you like,
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	>                   he'll  take it.' Thank you, you're right.
	
	What you've got going is a worldview to reinforce your everyday prejudices, that's all. Plus the perpetual regurgitation cycle. Even these epigonal mishappenings have to be affirmed, or at least
	accepted as inevitable.
	
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	>                   "Money is what makes a man act funny"   - Eminem.
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	>                    Where did i go?..... still there?... Stuart?
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