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Subject: RE: [fyi] What is Realism in Iraq?
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:40:15 +0100
From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker-AT-uva.nl>




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[mailto:owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU]Namens John Foster
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Onderwerp: Re: [fyi] What is Realism in Iraq?



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>
>
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> Van: owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
> [mailto:owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU]Namens Anthony
> Crifasi
> Verzonden: maandag 17 november 2003 15:50
> Aan: heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
> Onderwerp: RE: [fyi] What is Realism in Iraq?
>
>
> Rene de Bakker wrote:
>
>    ??? it was either you or me, and it wasn't me, so.....
>
> >    Heidegger and Japan did go well together, on account of deeper things
> >than
> >    political. (are you familiar with the term 'philosophical'?)
>
> And the west and Iraq have no common philosophical roots? Where did the
west
> inherit Greek philosophy from in the first place? The Islamics.
>
> Anthony Crifasi
>
>
>
>     Please go tell mr Wolfowitz, where the roots of his 'philosophy' lie.
>     (cf. Abraham and the Bagdad museum of archaeology)
>
>     The Greeks developed their own in contrast with the Asian. Goethe,
Nietzsche
>     and Heidegger were aware of that.
>     The Islamic reroute of a part of Aristotle's works, is, compared to
this,
>     merely a traffic question.
>
>     rene

It must have been Plotinus then were the roots of Western Philosophy came
from. At that time may be he had a conference with Sankara's followers?
Plotinus was in the Arab world for a while.

john


    John,

    A situation resembling Rilke and Americanism: what Rilke thought he was
    opposing, determined already his grandparents.

    Although Abelard already "guessed" the remaining works of A. (according
    to De Rijk), the disposal of the entire Aristoteles led to a crisis of
    Western christendom. No longer, Greek 'eternity' (physis) of the earth, was
    compatible with God's freedom to create. Sigher van Brabant and his doctrine of
    double truth (peaceful coexistence between opposing truths of faith and 
    philosophy), the most radical Aristotelism of that day, were condemned,
    but more, incl. Thomas himself, were involved. Interestingly, the writers
    of Empire consider Duns Scotus' doctrine of the univocity of being, which was
    to unite finite, earthly, and infinite, godly, being, the real beginning of
    modern philosophy: the universal notion of ens as the basis of all religious
    controversy.

    The feeding ground for all these developments was, however, already laid, and
    consisted in the merging of Judaeo-Christian monotheism and Greek metaphysics,
    translated into Latin. Plotinus (204-270) is an important station on this road. 	
    
    regards
    rene 




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