File spoon-archives/heidegger.archive/heidegger_2003/heidegger.0311, message 327


From: HealantHenry-AT-aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:29:43 EST
Subject: Re: Liberal vs. social democracy - Gestell/Gewinnst



In a message dated 11/20/03 3:50:39 PM, michael-AT-sandwich-de-sign.co.uk writes:

>Hen, is it not the case that the phenomena of gestell are not gestell it
>self? Is it not the case that it is gestell that brings forward the
>phenomena in the form that we mark as gestell as if the two were the same?
>To look for signs and traces of gestell is it self under the dominance
>of gestell; this does not provide the essence of gestell... so what manner
>of comportment does such provision, such pro-vision?

Are asking the question about 1) the Aristotelian Heidegger 
or the 2) B&T Heidegger or 3) the TQCT Heidegger?
Well, I'd say:

1) Gestell itself is just that ontological aspect 
of Being that is synonymous with "number."
And, since Being is a great big empty bag of categories,
we're obviously, and very stupidly, denying the onto dif
if we dont distinguish betw ontic phenomena like genetic
codes, and ontological descriptions such as all possibilities of 
quantification. 

2) Gestell itself is present in the instrumental totality
in Div. One of B&T. By this I mean that H describes the
truth of Being in terms of this instrumental totality in order to 
present the everydayness of Dasein and the descriptions he uses
can't but somehow be contaminated by gestell. And
perhaps the traces of gestell are marked in the 
attempt to describe an ontological framework of Dasein. 
A dirty job, but somebody had to do it. 

(intermezzo)

 It may be that gestell is the final obstacle
in completing an ontological hermeneutics and 
a phenomenology of dasein, sort of the French over and agst
a good UN completion of the B&T project as planned--
and H began to "think Being historically." And
poetically, by the way. 

3) Here we hear of the undisclosed disclosing, 
and the hidden open and the earth/world, 
and so forth. One interp of the gestell in this story would
see an overthrowing of the ont dif by gestell and the
completion of representation as inventory. I think
of that as reaching absolute zero... a nasty state of affairs.


But Michael, mostly I think of it as the set up, 
Michael E's good word for it,
and the compelling forces that are registering 
our fate beyond all human intention, yet 
guiding all human intention, 
even the resistance to said forces.

But dont believe me, I am a very confused thinker.

hen


 


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