Subject: RE: Truths and opinions
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:49:25 +0100
From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker-AT-uva.nl>




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Van: owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
[mailto:owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU]Namens Michael Eldred
Verzonden: vrijdag 12 december 2003 11:50
Aan: heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
Onderwerp: Re: Gestell/Gewinnst - Truth as opinion


Cologne 12-Dec-2003

"Bakker, R.B.M. de" schrieb Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:06:14 +0100:

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
> [mailto:owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU]Namens Michael Eldred
> Verzonden: donderdag 11 december 2003 12:37
> Aan: heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
> Onderwerp: Re: Gestell/Gewinnst - Truth as opinion
> ME:
> Such a lack of seriousness! Your heavy-handed irony, cheap polemic and
> perversely held opinions must provide their own satisfaction for you, but
> they are not worthy of philosophy. So go right ahead.
>
>
> RdB:
>     who the hell do you think you are to say things like these to someone
>     who obviously takes serious pains to study and write and discuss - with
>     you for instance - and whom you just disqualify as 'not worthy of philosophy'.
>
>     Gewer the Gehell do you think you are?
>
>

The big difference between Malcolm and you is that Malcolm has a question and the
ability and perhaps even a chance of getting out of his post-modernist dead-end
(Holzweg) with its thoughtless, not to say mindless jargon of "interpretive
strategies", etc..

    I disagree with Malcolm on many points, but that does not hinder my talking
    to him - on the contrary.
    
You, on the other hand, are baked questionlessly into the swindle of your Heideggerean
Weltanschauung. Someone who opines that Heidegger is "so far ahead" can only be -- a
follower.


    Possibly - it's my opinion that in philosophical matters one must first look
    for the philosophers, to learn thinking from those who have done it. One cannot
    demand anything, only spend a life, in order to get rid of them again, and go
    into business (die Sache) for oneself, the only one one has/is. 
    


For the rest, I couldn't care less whether this 'opinion' of mine is acknowledged as
'true' or not. Truth has nothing at all to do with opinion. A saying that unconceals
has already attained truth. Whether particular individuals see it or not is completely
indifferent.



   And that is what you have to tell the particular individuals here? How do you ever
   expect to start an exchange at all? - regardless of truths or of opinions.

   
   Ad Greek beginning: at the end of GA15 Seminars is a supplemental seminar in
   Basel 1951, during which Heidegger declares  -i reported this previously-  that it
   was his ownmost opinion, that the enormity of catastrophes in recent history
   indicated for him, that their causes had to be looked for at the start of that same
   history. Which means, to my opinion, not that it really is a matter of opinion, but
   that everyone has to find out for himself, first THAT there is a problem called
   history, as soon as the self-evidence of its presence is shattered. In this respect
   he explicitly singled out two extremes: Burckhardt's 'individualistic' historiographic
   practice  -a sort of school teacher's history- , and, on the other hand: the marxist
   conception of history. 
   
   rene

   




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