From: "bob scheetz" <rscheetz-AT-cboss.com>
Subject: Re: spectacle v truth
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:27:11 -0500



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From: "Anthony Crifasi" <crifasi-AT-hotmail.com>
To: <heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: spectacle v truth


> Bob Scheetz wrote:
>
> >you've got me all wrong, anthony.  i've pretty generally opposed US
clients
> >and their repressive regimes over the yrs.  and the reagan-bush policy of
> >godfathering this guy to save our bacon by quashing the ayatollah and
> >resurgent islam, while playing the other side as well to assure each
being
> >mangled sufficient to provide against either signifying strategically in
> >the
> >oil patch (and all without the loss of a single american life), has this
> >long time left me imprecating justice on the heads of all responsible
> >agents.
>
> No mention, of course, of the OTHER reason why the ayatollah was
squashed -
> the other reason being towards the north.

think yer confused here, ...maybe thinking afghanistan?

>
> >however my pt was the political economy of spectacle.  clearly the
> >propaganda construction of the bush war is a palpable fairy tale;   like
> >the
> >the wmd's,
>
> See paragraphs 3 and 4 of UN resolution 1441.

UN security council was conceived and has always been an extension of US
foreign policy apparatus

>
> >the pulling down of the saddam colossus, the jessica lynch rescue,
carrier
> >landing on the abe lincoln, ...indeed, the faux prez himself and his
> >"gathering nucular threats".
>
> Only one of several reasons he gave.

 the other "threat"(complicity with obl) on the national sec head was even
more palpably bogus

>
> >only the most
> >helpless don't know we're there for israel and oil.
>
> You mean the oil that could have been found in DOUBLE the quantity in
Saudi
> Arabia, the invasion of which the US could have constructed a much more
> compelling case given that 15 out of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were from
> there?

the pt of securing resources is no longer one of 19th cent colonialism; the
strategic conception foresees a time in near future where having yer  hand
on the spiggot, viz., the hegemon of central asia and the oil patch, will be
the global high ground essetnial to surviving the coming oil drought

as for the 9/11 hijackers (you should really read a little deeper), they are
the direct issue of the US anti-soviet policy of
recruiting/training/equiping mujahadin, ...and at US instance her most
abject whores, the foney oil sheiks and prez of egypt, were enthusiastic to
please.

>
> >so the mass media qua
> >propaganda apparatus exists
> >to provide a stready supply of factitious spectacle for  consumption
> >by us moron taxpayers, to cover the bloody murder and amuse us at the
same
> >time. and the only way i know to resist the diet is skepticism.  in
> >fact the case of maher arar is only the most recent illustration of US
> >affinity (preferably by proxy) for torture.
>
> And THOUSANDS of Japanese were unjustly detained during WWII. Would you
> criticize US involvement in WWII?

sure, all kinds of ways.  but right here it's a bit of a red herring

>
> >in fact the US officers who
> >discovered saddam's stash in his baghdad palace last spring did help
> >themselves.
>
> As many probably did during WWII. Would you criticize US involvement in
> WWII?
>
> >in fact the portrait given us of saddam is so hackneyed over the
> >last 20 yrs, it defies credulity itself.  and i think even you gottamit,
> >the
> >tableau of the "capture of saddam," endlessly and ubiquitously repeated,
> >is,
> >nothing to do with "reporting" or "fact," "truth,"..., a nice
illustration
> >of baudrillard.
>
> There's that, and there's also the diatriabe of "but we haven't got Osama
> yet," and "this is a good opportunity for the US to internationalize the
> Iraqi conflict," and and and...

by which you no doubt mean what they intend, ...the rich, G7, under US
command subjugating islam and incorporating it inot the new world order.

bob

>
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