Subject: RE: spectacle v truth Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:20:21 +0100 From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker-AT-uva.nl> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU [mailto:owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU]Namens Malcolm Riddoch Verzonden: dinsdag 23 december 2003 15:43 Aan: heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU Onderwerp: Re: spectacle v truth On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, at 02:07 PM, bob scheetz wrote: > the "fascist" thing is perennial on the left; but imho misconceives > the US > pol-econ Well I was just going along with a certain proposition, the dreadful yet still tenuous possibility that the neocons aided and abetted the 911 massacres. And I'm only mentioning it now because amazingly it's entered the mainstream US election cycle but I don't want to dwell on it too much more and prefer to leave it up to others to ponder and do their own research. However, if true I think this 'fascism' could possibly become real fascism in the historical sense of a military backed suspension of constitutional rule, the total mobilization of all national resources in a 'total war' of expansion and the violent suppression of dissent all dressed up in the patriotic guise of homeland defense. Juenger, after the Cambodians had adopted (via Paris) his 'total mobilization": when things get acute, total mobilization will be called on. After ww1 he had concluded that the capacity of the western coalition, to perform total mobilization, was greater than in the more traditional middle and Eastern Europe. All luxury in a way, also the luxury of not having to do the genocides oneself, but leaving them, by total machination, to the others. (Turks, Russians and Germans). WE are the bad guys, as long as we keep on pointing to the others. Of course, Hitler can, then, no longer be the highest exemplum of evil, and consequently his star is momentarily rising. But keep awake all, stranger and stranger things will happen, the fundament that still is believed in, is no longer there... cheers, we're doing not bad here, all of us, i think rene Hitler's democratic constitutional totalitarian dictatorship sets a horrifying standard for fascist will to will that is going to be rather difficult to equal or surpass, especially if you think that the holocaust defines the modern principle of evil. This is what I understand by the term 'fascism'. Vietnam and Nixon's attempt at a police state don't even come close, although you might descriptively refer to various elements as 'fascist' and the toll in human lives was atrocious. But if the neocon ideologues allowed Al Qaeda to attack in order to embark on war, all previous left leaning criticisms of US imperialism would surely fall far short of the gigantic crimes that would be 911, Afghanistan and Iraq. Yet nothing is certain here and I see you're on high 'orange' alert for xmas with your government functionaries warning of a terror attack that could 'equal or exceed' 911, so I don't want to add any more to the hysteria than I probably already have ( http://www.geekandproud.net/terror/ ). Have a good and safe xmas/Christmas break in whatever denominational form you choose. Cheers, Malcolm --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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