File spoon-archives/heidegger.archive/heidegger_2003/heidegger.0312, message 373


Subject: RE: spectacle v truth
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:20:21 +0100
From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker-AT-uva.nl>




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[mailto:owner-heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU]Namens Malcolm
Riddoch
Verzonden: dinsdag 23 december 2003 15:43
Aan: heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
Onderwerp: Re: spectacle v truth



On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, at 02:07  PM, bob scheetz wrote:

> the "fascist" thing is perennial on the left; but imho misconceives 
> the US
> pol-econ

Well I was just going along with a certain proposition, the dreadful 
yet still tenuous possibility that the neocons aided and abetted the 
911 massacres. And I'm only mentioning it now because amazingly it's 
entered the mainstream US election cycle but I don't want to dwell on 
it too much more and prefer to leave it up to others to ponder and do 
their own research.

However, if true I think this 'fascism' could possibly become real 
fascism in the historical sense of a military backed suspension of 
constitutional rule, the total mobilization of all national resources 
in a 'total war' of expansion and the violent suppression of dissent 
all dressed up in the patriotic guise of homeland defense. 

    Juenger, after the Cambodians had adopted (via Paris) his 'total
    mobilization": when things get acute, total mobilization will be
    called on. After ww1 he had concluded that the capacity of the western
    coalition, to perform total mobilization, was greater than in the
    more traditional middle and Eastern Europe. All luxury in a way,
    also the luxury of not having to do the genocides oneself, but
    leaving them, by total machination, to the others. (Turks, Russians 
    and Germans).

    WE are the bad guys, as long as we keep on pointing to the others.
    Of course, Hitler can, then, no longer be the highest exemplum of evil, 
    and consequently his star is momentarily rising. But keep awake all,
    stranger and stranger things will happen, the fundament that still
    is believed in, is no longer there... 

    cheers, we're doing not bad here, all of us, i think  
    rene

        





Hitler's 
democratic constitutional totalitarian dictatorship sets a horrifying 
standard for fascist will to will that is going to be rather difficult 
to equal or surpass, especially if you think that the holocaust defines 
the modern principle of evil. This is what I understand by the term 
'fascism'. Vietnam and Nixon's attempt at a police state don't even 
come close, although you might descriptively refer to various elements 
as 'fascist' and the toll in human lives was atrocious. But if the 
neocon ideologues allowed Al Qaeda to attack in order to embark on war, 
all previous left leaning criticisms of US imperialism would surely 
fall far short of the gigantic crimes that would be 911, Afghanistan 
and Iraq.

Yet nothing is certain here and I see you're on high 'orange' alert for 
xmas with your government functionaries warning of a terror attack that 
could 'equal or exceed' 911, so I don't want to add any more to the 
hysteria than I probably already have ( 
http://www.geekandproud.net/terror/ ).

Have a good and safe xmas/Christmas break in whatever denominational 
form you choose.

Cheers,

Malcolm



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