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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:26:48 EST
Subject: Re: Gestell/Gewinnst - Truth as opinion


In a message dated 05/12/2003 19:00:36 GMT Standard Time, 
allen.scult-AT-drake.edu writes:


> Subj:Re: Gestell/Gewinnst - Truth as opinion
> Date:05/12/2003 19:00:36 GMT Standard Time
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> >On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 12:51  AM, Malcolm said,
> >
> >
> >That's precisely the narrowing down that I have a problem with. As 
> >far as I can see there is no basis for this 'necessity' apart from 
> >your own assertion that Heidegger's thinking has its provenance in 
> >the Greek. That assertion seems to me to be based solely on your own 
> >interpretation of what is 'true' in the Heidegger texts as the 
> >historical unfolding of a Greek origin. This is itself a very 
> >particular way of reading Heidegger, a particular historical 
> >interpretive strategy, and one I have no problems with apart from 
> >your insistence that it's the fundamental and necessary way to read 
> >Heidegger. There is no basis for this 'necessity', all we have are 
> >the texts themselves and our own individual attempts to interpret 
> >them.
> >
> 
> Sorry Malcolm, I know I'm taking this paragraph out of its broader 
> context, but what is this list
> if not a series of opportunities to say something you want to say, 
> even if it's irrelevant to the
> conversation?
> 
> That having been said, I want to argue that the basis for reading 
> Heidegger as a German-Greek thinker,
> perhaps even THE  German thinker to truly think Greek, is a necessity 
> that arises not only out of
> Heidegger's own claims and the hermeneutical charity required to read 
> a great thinker as he asks
> to be read, but also because he makes good on his claims to retrieve 
> the beginning and transform it
> at this moment in philosophical time into a new beginning.  You might 
> say that's rather circular.
> Of course it is:  The only way to fathom the  force of Heidegger's 
> claims (as well as the the
> originary claims of the Greek philosophy he thinks) is to read and 
> try to understand them as
> "made-good."  After all, this is philosophy, not science!
> 
>   The recently plagiarized Frank Edler has written on this period of 
> romantic retrieval of the arche
> in Germany. It turns out there were others who said the new beginning 
> of the originary beginning
> in terms very similar to Heidegger's ( Karl Reinhardt, in 1916, 
> announced the second coming of
> Parmenides as "Denker/Dichter whose fundamental concern was the 
> relation between language
> and ontology." (Charles Bambach, Heidegger's Roots, 225).  It wasn't 
> just Heidegger.  Get with the program, Malcolm. Enjoy the new 
> beginning as the new beginning it is.
> 
>   Of course, all we have are the texts themselves. . ."  What else do 
> you need!? " Everything is interpretation"makes the new beginning 
> count even more.  Heidegger's Parmenides proves itself by taking us 
> back to the originary words themselves.  The past isn't really 
> passed.  It returns again and again
> in the "how" of new beginnings.
> 
> Allen ( Learning more and more that Heidegger wasn't all that original)
> 
> 
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Cheers,

Jud.

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