Subject: RE: more porn?
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 16:38:23 +0200
From: "Bakker, R.B.M. de" <R.B.M.deBakker-AT-uva.nl>


Nietzsche against metaphysical Christendom:

the sensuous means duty, duty to strive for ennoblement.

duty, because: there's only ONE alternative:

condemnation.

(Jesus' crucifixion was not a minor indication)  


but please, when reading Nietzsche: look always
at yourself, not at medieval, also not baroque
Christendom, these are still art-religion, and
nothing the like exists today.

The burning of heretics, conceived as purification,
as 'salutary' to fallen creatures of the same God, 
is extremely cruel. The cruelty of porno-representation,
though, is of another kind, it is of a diesseits-malice:
sodomic, piggy. Not the 'porno' is essential to the porno,
but the humiliation, needed by one life force to remain
superior to another, which is factually superior.
Who are not so fearsome, as those afraid of Angst and subject
to endless lying.
 
The inquisition, compared to poll-justice, was a
procedure on dove-tails. One wanted to SAVE those
gone wrong. "Please, Giordano, SAY that you don't 
mean it, then please go."  

Savonarola did not last very long, no?
 
In fact, one has recognized in the way of interrogating,
in its *methodicity*, the germs of scientific investigation.
I heard lately: "Without the medieval fear for the salvation 
of the soul, there would be no modern science."

Now, this is not an unimportant wink to the Nietzsche volumes
and the question for subjectivity. 

There is a way out, for thought, beginning with the spoiled pack, 
das verweste Geschlecht, find the lifeline to subjectivity in modern 
philosophy, the NECESSITY to deal with it, and meeting other while 
dealing with it. As science cannot deal with science, subjectivity 
cannot fathom itself. As long as one's subject is still standing, 
one has not really dealt with it. And the urge to do so  - the so-called
'Anspruch des Seins' - , cannot be denied otherwise, than by narrowing 
its scope, that is: by identifying with the type. Its uniform is technology. 
When the type is at work, battling the battle of over and under, reality 
happens. It knows of nothing else...  

So that there are chances to become seeing. Chances for ANOTHER kind of man.


The curse on Christendom is not thrown by Nietzsche, on account
of historical Christendom  - except for the destruction of the
dignified peoples of North and South America - but because it
could not, and forever CAN not withstand the moral demise of
the world, precisely because these morals have been built upon 
metaphysical Christendom itself, and must, in so far, decay with 
them.

Then the command to condemn the flesh becomes inevitable, because
the only other alternative: ennoblement of the sensuous, has
been thrown away long ago. This is the irony of Dasein: one cannot
get loose. As is also shown by the Blackburn Rovers fun of Jud. 
One is strongly reminded of Rome's last days, a last dance on the 
Titanic.

the curse of Christendom is that it hits the masses that are formed
in its end phase. "YOU have killed him". You can lie what you want,
but you'll BETRAY this murder. The more so when you pass the blame 
to others, to other 'cultures' or lesser mankinds. When these have 
the nerve to hit back (Eminem, Osama), the SM can begin in the name 
of God and fatherland, as their dark side namely, the side that is 
flatly denied as un-american. That's wtp morals: it is there, but it 
cannot, should not be there, therefore really it is not there. 
The Western Untermensch, gathered as army (subject as plurality: type),
is ordered to keep the Oriental Untermensch under, to inscribe him with
his will, like in the Penal Colony. Then the 'Christian" order of things 
is restored. For the sake of power, that means. 

as long as the mildness of Nietzsche is not seen...

it's not HIS curse, goddammit, he sees the curse coming: we're gonna pay for
having been Christians so long  (too long). The Christian wants to run away
from himself. But he can't: they're nothing without images, without re-presentation.



rene





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